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To: David fisk who wrote (22315)	11/22/1998 12:55:00 AM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Hi David; I was only trying to show that Sam asked you an honest question about John having second thoughts. Darrin made a very insightful statement when he said that even Jesus had a doubt in the garden when He asked God to let the cup of crucifixon pass from Him, but not His will but God's will be done. To me this is the age old problem that Paul expressed about the battle between the flesh and the spirit. I cannot express this as poetically as Darrin does, but to find, as he says, the Christos within, we must overcome the desires of the flesh. Yes, Jesus was Christ, but also a man who had to experience man's weaknesses. John had this battle within himself, fearing what the Romans were going to do to him in the body. I hope that you are well. Rom. 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose." Santiago

To: David fisk who wrote (22315)	11/22/1998 1:06:00 AM
From: Darrin Vernier	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

David, "The Jews expected a political and material messiah, Jesus came as a different type and they rejected Him, so the kingdom was taken from them. That's what The Gospel of Matthew is all about, the Jews rejecting Jesus as The Messiah and God taking the Kingdom from them and establishing a spiritual kingdom." This is another example of a literal, separatist interpretation, which results in the condemning of others. The Jews spoken of are figurative, not literal, like those remaining in Egypt. Literal interpretations like yours only serve to divide people, not draw them together. Interpretations like yours start Holy Wars and Jihads. The Jews have a very deep understanding of the spiritual Kingdom. Perhaps you haven't looked. It amazes me that people devote so much time to deciding who among them in not of God, when I believe that everyone on this board is, regardless of our differences. Why someone would wish to believe in something that says,"This is MY God, not yours. He took it away from you." Is beyond my belief. I guess I missed the part where Jesus walks around taking back salvation from everyone, and separates everyone. Dang! I hate when that happens... Peace, Darrin