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Technology Stocks : How high will Microsoft fly? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (12443)	11/22/1998 11:30:00 AM
From: rudedog	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

Frederick - My suggestion to you would be to talk to some developers. Don't take my word for anything. I certainly won't take your word for anything after this completely inane and off-base series of posts. I don't know what universe you live in but it's not closely related to the one the rest of us inhabit. Are you in technology development?? That's my business. I'm not a coder Excuse me, but that's obvious. You're a suit. Your concentration on money and the financial rewards that you believe drive technical people reflect the kind of empty thinking that affects too many technical companies. Real programmers are more interested in the value of their ideas, the opportunity to actually produce something that others will want to use, and the chance to exchange ideas with others who can understand them (something that clearly won't happen in any discussion between you and a technically savvy developer). Microsoft provides even entry-level people with a great deal of flexibility in their job scope and work assignments, the chance to interact with some of the best minds in the business, and the assurance that technical skill will be rewarded. The internal environment is more open to new ideas than companies like Oracle and Sun (both of which I have worked with on technical issues). How far would an Oracle developer get with the idea of a cooperative development with some Microsoft team? Probably not as far as his next paycheck. But there is no technical or business idea which is rejected out of hand at Microsoft. Ideas are subjected to intense scrutiny by others in the organization, but often the most off-the-wall and controversial ideas get the most traction, and the 'Microsoft idea' is just as likely to change as the new idea in this interaction. The BEST talent has long left Redmond. Keep on dreaming. You are showing your ignorance of the depth of technical talent in Redmond, and the degree of loyalty they have for the company. And that loyalty is based as much on an appreciation of the lifestyle and opportunity that breeds at Microsoft as on any promise of getting rich. The Softies work hard, they play hard, and they have huge energy and drive in both activities. I know lots of good technical people at Sun, Oracle, and other Silicon Valley companies who would go to MSFT in a heartbeat if they had the chance. I don't think there are too many Softies who would go the other way.

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (12443)	11/22/1998 10:20:00 PM
From: mozek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

Are you in technology development?? You might say so. Frederick, you have no idea who your talking to on these boards. Toy's a self proclaimed, big time IT consultant who only invests in penny stocks. He obviously has some narrowly focused technical understanding of the landscape, but seems bent on convincing others of his worth. Rudedog clearly demonstrates enough insight that I'd bet his profile is honest and maybe understated. Bearded One probably has more of a life than he talks about on these boards. You may understand more than I do about some things, but not anything I've seen you post here. As for myself, I'm a guy who works at Microsoft. Unfortunately, I'm not always at liberty to discuss what I do know, so sometimes I try to listen more than talk. My suggestion to you would be to talk to some developers. Don't take my word for anything. Don't worry, I wouldn't take your word for anything. Your ostridge-like, shallow comments speak volumes against you and your investment in Microsoft. When people make amazing statements that are as off base as yours, I feel it's reasonable for me to add some truth to the thread for those able to see it. If you choose to respond with insults, it doesn't make much difference. You haven't learned anything, but maybe someone else isn't drawn into your confusion. See ya, Mike