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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (26203)11/23/1998 11:19:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 108807
 
Emile,

The Bolshevik Party in Russia was esclusively a Jewish Party and they were responsible for the Communist Revolution in l917. The deliberate slaughter of 20 million Christians was palnned and executed by the Bolshevik Party members.

Where did you study history, not to mention spelling? I know all about your ridiculous extract from Churchill, and the edifice that you build on this scanty foundation. Have you ever considered the possibility that Churchill's perception of the data provided by his magnificent intelligence service - often noted for magnificent blunders - may have been slanted by his personal prejudices, which were notoriously violent? Even the slightest reading of Russian history would give you a much-needed perspective.

When you read these things, do you approach them with any kind of scholarship? Do you deliberately seek out the other views, read them, and balance what you read? Do you try to gather as complete a picture as possible before jumping to a conclusion? Or do you simply read things that your cohorts point to, and automatically and uncritically accept whatever supports your own prejudices?

Either develop some intellectual integrity, or stick to quoting scripture.

Steve



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (26203)11/23/1998 11:44:00 PM
From: E  Respond to of 108807
 
A believer in fictions, you produce historical fictions yourself.

1. The idea that representatives of rabbinic Judaism were commonly ringleaders of pagan, Roman and Greek, pogroms against Christians is a joke. In one very complex situation in Alexandria Jews were allied with Romans in a series of bloody riots aimed at Christians. The event is almost unique in the history of Jewish responses to the new Christian movement. The idea that there were "hundreds of thousands and possibly millions" of Christian casualties in Jewish-led pogroms is a fiction and also an absurdity.

2. Jews were treated decently for the most part in Moslem countries, where they often had to flee for asylum from Christian outrages. Jews, Moslems and Christians coexisted peacefully under the Moors. Once again, the notion that the Jews were instigators or planners in the imperial campaigns of the Moslem powers is another stupid calumny. The brutality of the Christians against the Jewish population in Spain, after the expulsion of the Moors, is what is clearly attested to in historical records. If some Jews gave aid and comfort to the Moslem enemies of their ancient tormentors, the Christian powers, it would hardly be difficult to understand why.

3. This staple of contemporary antisemitism has been well responded to by Steven Rogers.

You are hopeless and dripping with blood-lust.

[My husband again-- E]



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (26203)11/24/1998 12:07:00 AM
From: E  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Emile: Just to give you a single sentence of actual history to set against your fantasy history--

"When the wave of Muslim expansion swept over Spain early in the 8th century, the conquerors found small, scattered, and bedeviled Jewish enclaves ready to welcome almost any rule after the repressive, often-brutal, policies of fanatically Catholic Visigoth kings."

A History of Judaism by D. Silver and B. Martin

[Husband talkin']