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To: micromike who wrote (21712)	11/24/1998 1:44:00 AM
From: rudedog	Respond to of 24154

Mike - I am not a defender of the Microsoft development process or of bloatware, But I do insist on understanding the issues based on facts. If NT is so hot why is MS writing 80% new code for NT5?. They are not, there were relatively minor changes to the kernel, which represents about 15% of the code commonly referred to as NT5. The rest of the NT5 effort is related services - network and directory code, cluster code, and layered services. If you said 80% of the code was changed in some way, you might be closer to the mark - the number of modules affected in some way, even in the kernel is probably closer to 100%. But almost nothing in the kernel is new in the sense of either ground up design or code which was rewritten rather than modified. I have this information from the senior program managers on the NT team. I know the kernel codeline fairly well and there were no changes of the kind you describe made to the core modules. maybe they'll finally have to make a quality product to compete I agree with you there, the development methods and discipline which brought us wonders like Win98 will not serve to compete in the enterprise. But NT, especially the 64 bit codeline, is a different animal, and it wouldn't be a wise assumption to assume that MSFT will not respond to the need to produce a quality OS - they actually have a quality core design, they just have not been able to discipline themselves to keep it clean.