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To: Tony Viola who wrote (69061)	11/24/1998 12:58:00 PM
From: John Koligman	Respond to of 186894

Tony, I would even argue with Mary's assertion of the mainframe being prevalent in 'smokestack' industries. Telecom would be just one example of tech where the mainframe is quite well represented. As for the 'new tech', well, I understand that Dell's most critical data is run on a CPQ/Tandem system. As for Yahoo, well, let's forget that one... <ggg> John I would be interested to find out what Intel really runs their business on. When I was with IBM I do remember we would get software service calls from them, so they had some IBM presence, but I do not know to what extent. Do you or anyone else know??

To: Tony Viola who wrote (69061)	11/24/1998 1:10:00 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony, >>>when will the average Fortune 500 CIO bet his job, and company, on it...' <<< I was hoping that you could give us more insight into this area. My own feeling is that a lot of the younger CIO's, in their early 30's, are quite perplexed by now. They have had exposure in graduate or business school to opens sytems philosophy, visual computing, OOPL, client server architecture and then they step into a world where they are still throwing around terms like MVS, JCL, TSO, COBOL, CICS, VTAM, et al. I doubt they hire many technicians from computer science departments from Dartmouth, Stanford, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, Cal Berkeley, or MIT. The people they work for have kids that play Mortal Kombat, Download audio and video, and yet in the work place they are still dealing with static reports and character based computing with arcane coding requirements. I would think they they are under enormous pressure to come up with something significantly more modern. Anyhow, you could probably tell us much more about that than I ever could. Regards, Mary

To: Tony Viola who wrote (69061)	11/24/1998 7:22:00 PM
From: Pigboy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony, << They've started, need to go a lot further, and Microsoft isn't helping much, with NT 5.0 now Windows 2000. I guess it's like why should they care right now? >> Exactly, MSFT isn't going to lose much by way of sales pushing out Win2000 a little more. Their sales are in very good shape right now. They have been in that enviable position (owning the only upgrade for most PCs) for many many years. I appreciate the thoughts on the mainframe. Keep them coming. Still trying to find out about those directors...like what do they do? ;-)