I do hope everyone here has had a wonderful Thankgiving. I enjoyed the day tremendously. Here we just finished a party. I love these things, lots of fun, but oddly, I am also glad when they are over. LOL
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>Who, you wouldn't be being a bit judgmental there, would you? Some say that's not a Christian attitude.<
Well it all depends upon what these "some" mean by "judgmental". If they mean being generally critical of people for almost any reason (as some people are), then I would perhaps agree with them. But if they mean being critical of sin and of people who wink at sin, then while this "some" are entitled to their opinion, they will not be able to support it with reason by use of the Holy Scriptures.
Of course liberals try to do this all the time, but they hardly try to do it with reason. We see them living like dogs, having sex with whatever they please, winking at lies and adultery and then when a Christian rises up to claim that in his view this is wrong, the liberal will read the Scriptures one of the few times in his life to try and use it to support his depravity. (We saw this done repeatedly by liberals in the case of Bill Clinton's depravity). Because they have an axe to grind, and typically have little experience with the history of the Church or with the translated Biblical text (let alone with the early texts), almost to a man (or womyn) they twist the Scriptures like the cultists they are.
>"There just seems to be this view that if you are a Christian, you think everybody else that's not just like you is wrong," said Chad Brown, a 25-year old law student who grew up in Texas. "That's just not it. That's not how the original man we named our religion after -- Jesus Christ -- was; he wasn't judgmental."<
Here we see a fallacy in that this man is obviously no authority on the Christian faith. Thousands upon thousands of Biblical scholars, Protestant and Catholic, agree that Jesus claimed almost precisely the opposite of what this poor misguided man claims. Indeed Jesus in effect said that if you are not like Him, you are already dead and will go to hell. The texts are numerous and clear on this point, and for nearly 2000 years the Church has understood what they teach.
This poor man has simply swallowed a teaching of an empty-headed non-Christian christianity no doubt taught him by liberals. This christianity has Jesus strolling through Jerusalem in a robe, perhaps smoking a joint, spouting nothing but sweet platitudes, accepting all manner of filth and stupidity, this, in the name of tolerance. Here Jesus is non-judgmental, a veritable new-age liberal twit.
Of course Jesus was nothing of the sort, and when we review all that was recorded in the Holy Scriptures of His words (and not merely those liberals love to use out of both their textual and historical contexts, destroying their meanings), we find proof of the fact. When He was confronted with people who who were hungry, needy, or those who were merely curious but sincere, He was generous, kind, merciful, eager to inform. On the other hand, when confronted by those who obviously desired to disparage, mock or trap Him, His words were blistering.
No one here can ever in truth complain that I verbally whipped them without provocation, and no one here can ever say when they have approached me for honest and cordial debate, that I lashed them. A fellow came through here probing my positions with initial cordiality, and though I disagreed with him, I found him thoughtful and thought him sincere. I told him of my respect for him. Indeed, I looked forward to further dialogue with him. Then in the course of our dialogue it became apparent to me his goal was merely to insult me and those with which I identify. Often he put words into my mouth and confused issues, seemingly on purpose, in his depraved pseudo-attempt at argument. I therefore told him flatly the truth about his filthy nature. If one wants to correspond with me without this sort of thing, one merely need present facts and opinion without insult-- ANY insult. In such an environment I will tell one what I think are weaknesses in one's argument and how one might eliminate them. I will also listen to one's perceived weaknesses in my position, admitting them when they truly exist and then trying to correct them, this, to either firm up the position, or discard it altogether. But my ideological opponents here have done no such thing. They have claimed to be open-minded and all this sort of trash, but have revealed themselves to be filthy, hypocrital liberal evangelists whose purpose is merely to spread their Gospel of Filth. They want no true gentlemanly debate, and they certainly do not respect anyone who is diametrically opposed to them. They want to insult, and so they have received from me the plain truth about their depraved characters.
Speaking to people of similar hypocrisy and entrenched filth, we now read the "non-judgmental" Author of the Christian faith: (From the RSV)
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrits! for you traverse sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. Woe to you, blind guides.... You blind fools! .... You blind men!... hypocrites!... You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!.... hypocrits! for you cleanse the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of extortion and rapacity.... hypocrites! for you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within they are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness.... you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.... hypocrits!.... You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?
Well. Here the reasonable man will see Jesus was certainly NOT non-judgmental, and such a man will also see that the young man to which you referred is sadly mistaken.
(Now you must indulge me: The Preacherman enters) Jesus was certainly judgmental when it comes to sinful behavior, and those who follow Him believe He will yet judge us all-- Christian and non-Christian. Christians are confident about this judgement because before God they humbly admit their sin, agreeing with Him that it is sin, not doing as Sodomites and other liberals do, flaunting depravity over the earth before Him, claiming it is acceptable, even good. Christians admit their errors before God, asking Christ's forgiveness for and turning away from them. They do not trust in their own abilities but in His. On the other hand, Sodomites and other liberals wallow in their filth, roll around in it, drink it, swallow it deeply, spewing some of it from their lips, and then they use government might to force decent people to accept and even pay for their filth-- even claiming they are Righteous in it. They export their gospel of filth across the world, making their converts twice the children of hell as they. (Preacherman exits)
When Sodomites (to be distinguished from the person who suffers from homosexual desires) and other liberals insult me or the RR, trying to garner support for their filthy notions, I have no reservations whatever about telling them the truth about themselves. They are filthy, and so right away they have no credibility. It is not I who judges them, but the principles set forth in The Book from which I have quoted above. So you may mention "christianity" as a defense, but this defense is about as stupid as any other. It is stupid because your mention of "christianity" is simply a mention of a filthy liberal religion, and not one of true Christianity.
>I could go look up chapter and verse to go with that quote, but I'm sure your infallible interpretation of the inerrant Bible tells you how to get around those bits.<
Well then you just go and look up that chapter and verse to go with that stupid "quote" of yours. You likely refer to Matthew chapter 7 verse 1. You just get that chapter and verse and show us why it claims Christians cannot criticize or pass judgement on sinful actions. You explain the verse as you see it, and I then will explain the verse. We will then let reasonable people decide for themselves whose interpretation is correct.
(I will not be able to respond quickly. So you just take your time. Consult with whomever you please. Learn the verse, prepare your argument, then state your case.) |
