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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (22659)	11/27/1998 9:05:00 AM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Nancy Why bother? Emile has, out of the thousands of people who read SI, maybe one or two people who believe his drivel. OVER 99% of the people who read his comments, turn on him, sometimes viciously. Nobody is fooled by his anti-christian protestations of hate mongering. I dare say that anyone who has any sort of independent intellect, considers him to be a fool at best, and Satan's pawn at worst if they believe in that sort of thing. mark

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (22659)	11/27/1998 10:06:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 39621

"You have said as a prophet that you are sure that the Lord will call the Jews Nazis," No Nancy, I've said that Jesus will the "Jews Nazis". That comes only from your own fascist Zionist mind. You want to generalize to cover your own Zionist hatred. What I said is that Zionism is bases upon the same racial foundation that Nazism was founded on. Consequently, all those who support Zionism are Jewish fascist or Jewish Nazis. All Jews do not support Zionism , as much as you would like them to. The Jews who do not support the racist politics of Zionism cannot be called Jewish fascist---only those that do. That also applies to Christians who support Zionist. As for the Jews who reject the Lord Jesus, they have a much worst fate than being called "Jew nazis"; the Jews who reject Jesus face an eternity without the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I consider both you and Alan Christians, but Christians who have not fully understood their faith yet. May Christ continue the work he has begun in your lives. Emile

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (22659)	11/27/1998 10:22:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Hi Nancy and Mark, Here is a quote about the evil contained in modern Judaism's doctrinal "bible", the Babylonian Talmud. Notice how the teachings of the Talmud have inculcated hatred for Christians and Christ among the adherents of modern Judaism. Also notice that Mr. Shahak calls the Talmud the Scritpures of the modern Jews. Do you consider Shalom a hater for quoting this? Do you considered Mr. Shahak a hater for having the integrity to expose the hatred in the Jewish Talmud? Do you support the Zionist brutality and expulsion that is directed against Palestinian Christians? Also, please notice that this aritcle confirms everthing I've been saying about the foundational teaching about modern rabbinic Judaism. --------------------------------------------- The great majority of Christian Palistinians have already left. There are now more Jerusalem born Christians living in Sydney than in Jerusalem....Most observers agree that if emigration continues as at present, it is only a matter of time before Christianity becomes extinct in the land of it's birth....The above were the findings of Dr. Bernard Sabella of Bethlehem University. The clash between Jew and Christian was as inevitable as the clash between Jew and Muslim, but it happened faster and was more fundamental. The Judeo-Christian conflict was more immediate and more intense on both sides because Christianity emerged, not outside of Jewish religion, but within it. Thus the tension between them was instantaneous. Christianity's claim that Jesus is God's promised Messiah challenged the legitimacy of rabbinic Judaism far more directly than anything Mohammed said or did. Islam was an internal threat; Christianity was an internal danger. For that reason, Christ and Christianity have been singled out for special rejection in Jewish scripture and special revulsion in Jewish tradition. Rabbinic nullification of the gospel was quickly institutionalized. Jewish religious authorities reacted swiftly to "the Jesus affair", and began to teach about Christ in way designed to harden the Jewish people against Christianity. The rabbis circulated demeaning tales about Jesus Himself, and described Christians as creatures so low on the scale of existence that no Jew would ever think of becoming one. Their anti-Christian teaching were eventually written down in the Jewush scripture known as the Talmud--the sprawling compendium of rules, interpretations of rules, and general commentary on life that has guided the belief and behavior of religious Jews for thousands of years. Dr. Israel Shahak is a Holocaust survivor (Belsen camp, an emeritus professor of organic chemistry at Hebrew University, a resident of Israel since 1945, and a longtime human rights activist. A seasoned student of Jewish scripture and tradition, Shahak candidly discusses the roots of the Judeo-Christian conflict from the Judaic side. Shahak believes that the state of Israel's prevailing ethnic and religious discrimination is a threat to its own moral legitimacy, and ultimately to its very existence. Dr. Shahak concludes from his studies that.......Judaism is imbued with a very deep hatred toward Christianity, combined with an ignorance about it. This attitude was clearly aggravated by the Christian persecutions of Jews, but is largely independent of them. In fact, it dates from the time when Christianity was still weak and was persecuted (not least by the Jews), and it was shared by Jews who had never been persecuted by Christians, or who were even helped by them. Shahak has studied the Talmud critically, and regards it as a defining document of the Judeao-Christian conflict. He finds within the Talmud two major strands of bigotry against Christians and Christianity. The first strand consists of "hatred and malicious slanders against Jesus" Himself;The second indicts Christianity as a form of idolatry and accuses Christians of being idolators. To say the Talmud reviles and despises Jesus would be an understatement. It depicts Jesus as a bastard, a black magician, and a blasphemer. The Talmudic judgment on Jesus can be summed up in a litany of scandalous accusations: He was the illegitimate son of a Jewish whore (Mary)by a Roman soldier named Pandira. Jesus learned sorcery and black magic, and by their means deceived many. He falsely claimed to be the Messiah promised by God, and thereby led his followers to spiritual destruction. "According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry and contempt of rabbinical authority. In punishment for his blasphemy, his eternal fate is to be immersed in boiling excrement forever. ------------------------------- This is pricisely what Zeev, hal Jordan, Mark and other Jews have attempted to cover and deny about the Talmud. Why? These smae words are called hateful rantings when the words come from me. Looks like my words were neither lies nor hate, but simple truth that has been neglected. The truth will make you free! Emile