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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (16116)	11/27/1998 11:46:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Johannes, ahhhh, "Trust", one of my favorite subjects. :-) America has a culture. Culture protects us, it's like the immune system which fights off invading virusus. It's the area in which people exercise their individual freedom. Manners, ethics and principles are at it's core. This is where we choose to be kind to one-another, to obey the basic laws of society. Trust is fundamental to this ideal. People who are not fundamentally trustworthy are carrying aids to our culture. They are underminding the culture which is the very fabric of the immune system. Leadership must be built on a foundation of trust. And this can only come from trustworthy people. This is what strengthens our country in times of crisis. No matter what problems we are faced with, a strong culture, centered on trust can overcome any problem. Principles are at this center. We don't need a person who is hollow here. A leader who lies infects the entire immune system. Values and principles come from a deep place in the human soul. They combine the religios elements of the far east, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, as well as the non religios belief's of Wicca's and atheists. Trust, honesty, Integrity, courage, decency, and the principle of fairness are part of the Natural laws all human being live with. When they are broken, a bond has been severed. All successful civilizations operate from a base of cultural principles. Sociologist Emile Dirkime once said " where mora's are sufficient laws are unnecessary, where mora's are insufficient laws are unenforceable". Trust enables people to communicate and solve problems, Integrity is one of our cultural morals. Trust and honesty are rooted to our principles. Principles first start at the personal level, leadership which lies, or is hypocritical cannot have trust. You can't have trust from people who are not trustworthy. When values are focused on principles people are in alignment and working together. Change is happening faster than ever, but when people are centered on values and principles, they can deal with any change which comes along. I can't remember a time when the principles embodied in our leader were so out of alignment with the people's values. How can we ever trust this President again? How can we believe he is sending our men and woman into battle for the right reasons? How can we know he believes in a policy or program for the right reasons? How can we know anything! Trust is gone, and trustworthiness with it. It's not enough in a leader to have competence, we must have character along with it. That is why "Character matters". I believe America will not so easily dismiss this attribute in the future when deciding who will be President. Michael

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (16116)	11/28/1998 9:44:00 AM
From: jimpit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Johannes your post expresses, much more completely and eloquently, some of the points I was trying to make in a response I posted to Borzou some time ago... which he has chosen to ignore: Message 6430650 I simply cannot understand how some posters on these threads can't comprehend, or refuse to admit for partisan reasons, the actual and potential long-term damage that is being done to this society by this administration's assault on the rule of law. Youthful idealism is NO excuse for abrogating logic and historical precedent. More attention should be paid to the causes and effects of failed social engineering policies, authored by guilt-ridden, vote-buying politicians, over the past 40 years. Thanks again for your post. Regards, jimpit