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To: Ahda who wrote (22726)11/28/1998 5:40:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 39621
 
CHAPTER LXXXII

The Prophetical Gifts of the Jews were Transferred to the Christians.

"For the prophetical gifts remain with us, even to the present time. And hence you ought to
understand that[the gifts] formerly among your nation have been transferred to us. And just as there
were false prophets contemporaneous with your holy prophets, so are there now many false teachers
amongst us, of whom our Lord forewarned us to beware; so that in no respect are we deficient, since
we know that He foreknew all that would happen to us after His resurrection from the dead and
ascension to heaven. For He said we would be put to death, and hated for His name's sake; and that
many false prophets and false Christs would appear in His name, and deceive many: and so has it
come about. For many have taught godless, blasphemous, and unholy doctrines, forging them in His
name; have taught, too, and even yet are teaching, those things which proceed from the unclean spirit
of the devil, and which were put into their hearts. Therefore we are most anxious that you be
persuaded not to be misled by such persons, since we know that every one who can speak the truth,
and yet speaks it not, shall be judged by God, as God testified by Ezekiel, when He said, 'I have
made thee a watchman to the house of Judah. If the sinner sin, and thou warn him not, he himself shall
die in his sin; but his blood will I require at thine hand. But if thou warn him, thou shalt be
innocent.'(4) And on this account we are, through fear, very earnest in desiring to converse[with men]
according to the Scriptures, but not from love of money, or of glory, or of pleasure. For no man can
convict us of any of these[vices]. No more do we wish to live like the rulers of your people, whom
God reproaches when He says, 'Your rulers are companions of thieves, lovers of bribes, followers of
the rewards.'(5) Now, if you know certain amongst us to be of this sort, do not for their sakes
blaspheme the Scriptures and Christ, and do not assiduously strive to give falsified interpretations.



To: Ahda who wrote (22726)11/28/1998 5:41:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 39621
 
CHAPTER CIX

Christians Are The Holy People Promised to Abraham.

Then I said again, "Would you suppose, sirs, that we could ever have understood these matters in the
Scriptures, if we had not received grace to discern by the will of Him whose pleasure it was? in order
that the saying of Moses(10) might come to pass, 'They provoked me with strange [gods], they
provoked me to anger with their abominations. They sacrificed to demons whom they knew not; new
gods that came newly up, whom their fathers knew not. Thou hast forsaken God that begat thee, and
forgotten God that brought thee up. And the Lord saw, and was jealous, and was provoked to anger
by reason of the rage of His sons and daughters: and He said, I will turn My face away from them,
and I will show what shall come on them at the last; for it is a very froward generation, children in
whom is no faith. They have moved Me to jealousy with that which is not God, they have provoked
Me to anger with their idols; and I will move them to jealousy with that which is not a nation, I will
provoke them to anger with a foolish people. For a fire is kindled from Mine anger, and it shall burn
to Hades. It shall consume the earth and her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the
mountains; I will heap mischief on them.'(11) And after that Righteous One was put to death, we
flourished as another people, and shot forth as new and prosperous corn; as the prophets said, 'And
many nations shall betake themselves to the Lord in that day for a people: and they shall dwell in the
midst of all the earth.'(12) But we are not only a people, but also a holy people, as we have shown
already.(1) 'And they shall call them the holy people, redeemed by the Lord.'(2) Therefore we are
not a people to be despised, nor a barbarous race, nor such as the Carian and Phrygian nations; but
God has even chosen us and He has become manifest to those who asked not after Him. 'Behold, I
am God,' He says, 'to the nation which called not on My name.'(3) For this is that nation which God
of old promised to Abraham, when He declared that He would make him a father of many nations;
not meaning, however, the Arabians, or Egyptians, or Idumaeans, since Ishmael became the father of
a mighty nation, and so did Esau; and there is now a great multitude of Ammonites. Noah, moreover,
was the father of Abraham, and in fact of all men; and others were the progenitors of others. What
larger measure of grace, then, did Christ bestow on Abraham? This, namely, that He called him with
His voice by the like calling, telling him to quit the land wherein he dwelt. And He has called all of us
by that voice, and we have left already the way of living in which we used to spend our days, passing
our time in evil after the fashions of the other inhabitants of the earth; and along with Abraham we
shall inherit the holy land, when we shall receive the inheritance for an endless eternity, being children
of Abraham through the like faith. For as he believed the voice of God, and it was imputed to him for
righteousness, in like manner we having believed God's voice spoken by the apostles of Christ, and
promulgated to us by the prophets, have renounced even to death all the things of the world.
Accordingly, He promises to him a nation of similar faith, God-fearing, righteous, and delighting the
Father; but it is not you, 'in whom is no faith.'

['Back to Justin Martyr']



To: Ahda who wrote (22726)11/28/1998 5:44:00 PM
From: Zeev Hed  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Darleen, I do not think that one religion is better then another, as a matter of fact, I tend to agree with Pascal that it is rationally impossible to determine the existence of God, less then that the best way (religion) to "work" God. That is why I do not attempt to convert every single Christian (I "work on "only" every second one, VBG) or Budhist or Muslim to my faith. I just wish they'll stop trying to convert me. When they do, I have to take defensive actions and convert them to, of course, the only true faith (VVBG).

As for Hell, I mentioned earlier that Emile is a "Gold Miner" and the vision I had when he finally met St. Peter. Frankly, who needs help in the "thereafter" when we have so much of it in the "here and now".

Zeev