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To: Hubert Few who wrote (26364)	11/29/1998 9:05:00 AM
From: Sam Ferguson	Respond to of 108807

I had a little dab of out of the body experience several times. Not all were from trauma. Some call it astral travel but my a__ was in two places at the same time and awareness of the reality of both with no interlude. One time about 2 blocks from where I was. Weird is all I can call it. I have read about it with others but cannot do it again. Some claim to be able to do so at will. I know all about the rehab pain and swore to kill the next one who told me,"No pain-No gain." With no legs I couldn't sit up so kind rehabs propped me up and then thew a beach ball straight at my face. I thought there must be a better way. It worked. I got tired of a busted nose and learned to throw up my hands and dodge. Guess I can never repay the kindness of those kind people who had to be so cruel to teach rehab. This old fart has not become mean in old age. Just sassy as hell.ggg I like to aggravate these zealots like Bob and Emile who are convinced they have all the answers when crap man they haven't even graduated kindergarten of life and philosophy.

To: Hubert Few who wrote (26364)	11/29/1998 9:17:00 AM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Hubert, I also had an experience like yours (out of body). I did not do it, it just happened. It was not as a result of a life threatening injury in my case, but a state of mind. There are several things I had to admit because of the realization that I am a spirit being. I did not do it at that instant though. It took a while. The experience was proof that what I thought of as me, intelligence, emotion, consciousness could all exist in an invisible form without substance and lose nothing. I also knew that I could do things in that form instantly. What I did was look at myself (I could see without eyes, think without the gray matter in my head, feel emotion without my body) for a few moments then I thought I better get back in there. As soon as I thought it I was back in my body. Later (years) I could look at that experience and know that if I can exist in an invisible spirit form so can God. It says we are created in the likeness and image of God. If God can exist, then so can angels exist, and the fallen angels. And the whole bible can be true. That experience was not enough by itself to lead me to Jesus. It was just a first proof of the possibility of God's existence. Other's followed later in my life. I also had to recognize my need for God, link that with faith to believe and then actually ask to be saved and then experience being born again. It was no easy task for God because I was a very cynical, questioning person. Bob

To: Hubert Few who wrote (26364)	11/29/1998 12:39:00 PM
From: Rick C.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Hubert ~ Another nicely done piece. Only thing I could add to the description of your ".....state of calm...." is that it is curiously similar to a state which a person can achieve in prison, albeit a psychological self-defense mechanism created, and absent the large glass door overlooking the idyllic yard. The four walls require an even larger degree of discipline and dependency upon your own inner resources. This can be accomplished, and is one of the capabilities of the incarcerated which so maddeningly frustrates their torturers' most dedicated efforts. Of greatest comfort is the ability to be able to see even a very tiny patch of blue sky through a greasy pane. The occasional wisp of cloud which crosses reinforces your knowledge that life does in fact persist. However, endurance does not require such luxuries. Regards, Rick