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To: E who wrote (16232)11/29/1998 11:08:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
>I am not a reader of this thread, but your exchange with Borzou Daragahi was called to my attention, and I read it with fascination at how a person as evidently literate as you, can be so entirely without even a modicum of emotional sophistication or self awareness.<

Well. You have your "emotional sophistication and self-awareness". I will take truth, principle and decency, and unlike those who are 'emotionally sophisticated and self-aware' will live without shame.

>Johannes, read the phrases I've pasted from your post to Mr. Daragahi. Do you not see what you have revealed about yourself? <

I wrote them, and meant every letter of them. Surely you do not think it concerns me that you or some other liberal pseudo-thinker desires to read their own perversities into them.

>Do you know that every heterosexual, male or female, who reads your words has to be thinking the same thing?<

No. I do not know this, and neither do you. What is evident to me is that this rather fallacious statement of yours is merely another Sodomite propaganda piece. Very many heterosexuals across this country vehemently reject the hogwash that to summarily reject homosexuality means to have some deep homosexual impulse. What rot. And very many heterosexuals will remove themselves from Sodomites should government attempt to force them to accept homosexuality. Your statement that 'every heterosexual, male or female, who reads my words HAS to be thinking the same thing' is mere pervert stupidity.

>The reason we are all thinking the same thing ("Geez, what is his problem?!") is because we are not having your feelings. We are calm. We are unthreatened...<

A frog in warm water is also calm and unthreatened. When the water leads up to and beyond boiling, it is yet calm and unthreatened. When it is dead and on the plate it is yet calm and unthreatened. I am not impressed.

>We are perhaps curious at a different way of being, or perhaps not. But Johannes -- nothing about what homosexuals are doing penetrates to the heart of our sexual being, moves us to rage, fills us with hate, makes us lose control, makes us obsess, brings the overwrought words I have pasted above to our minds.<

Well the person with a shred of decency will necessarily feel outrage when Sodomites attempt to force depravity upon them.

As for my being out of control, you are of course free to believe what you desire. Of course I will have to respect you before your thoughts will carry any weight in my mind.

>"Because I have never gone to a Sodomite brothel, and never will," you wrote. You're proud! Believe me, Johannes, it would never occur to someone not tempted, deep down, to ever go "to a Sodomite brothel," to boast that he had not done so and was furthermore resolved never, ever to do so!<

Here is the logic of a perverted nitwit: If a pervert invites someone to his brothel to kill him, and that someone claims no desire to grace the brothel with his person, then that someone deep down was necessarily tempted to go to the brothel.

>Johannes, it looks to me like you have a lot of identification with homosexual activity. A lot of emotion is raised when you contemplate it. Dude, it is almost like you are there, doin' it.<

Well you know what they say: you can lead a horse to water, but a pervert will fight you tooth and nail to remain in his filth. You may derive all this from what you have seen here, but no decent and reasonable man will give it any credence.

>The above is just my immediate reaction but I have a friend who is a psychoanalyst, and your post seemed to me so very disturbed, and inappropriately fixated on somebody else's sex life, that I called and read it to her, out of curiosity about what she would think. Here's what she said, for your consideration. : "This is not normal, and it is bigger than projection, it is a psychotic rage. A sense of reality is missing. I would be concerned about him, this is scary. His rage is in control of his thoughts.<

This sort of psychoanalysis is but modern alchemy, and when given over the phone on the basis of words from the internet it amounts to overt quackery. It would be a lie were I to tell you I expected better of you.

>What you are seeing is a defense against some profound weakness. Obviously, he doth protest too much. Why is he so very, very excited? Why?<

Well of course this I freely state, and have long stated it here. I happen to cherish noble heritage and legacy, neither of which have anything to do with homosexuality. So then when Sodomites threaten me with government might, I tend to become a wee bit concerned, as would any decent man. My profound weakness will be made manifest when government might is used to attempt forcing me to accept Sodomite depravity. There is no certifiable genetic partition protecting my noble heritage and legacy from the Sodomite's legacy of filth. Were it utterly certifiable that perverts could by no means influence the morality and character of my children, then I would let them lie in filth as much as they please, saying nothing whatever to or about them. But no such certification exists, and they are not content to lie in filth alone. They want others to join them, and will use government to bring this to fruition. Well of course I will not accept it, and have already taught my children not to accept it. Decency means something to me, even if you calmly welcome the world to join you in accepting filth.

>Because this kind of rage needs a receptacle. He sounds like a scary person who is potentially a tragic one. How can he live with this level of rage-- well, he has become expert at projecting it outward. That sense of "badness" isn't about homosexuals-- it is about himself, and he is trying desperately to get rid of it. God forbid that he should ever feel it-- his fear is that it would overwhelm him and destroy him-- so he projects it outward, to save himself."<

It is no coincidence that at a time when our nation openly supports, even champions a lying and filthy President, that it also has begun to accept homosexual perversion and other perversities. Your "friend" is a quack, having not the intellectual wherewithal to obtain facts about the moral culture of her country, extrapolating from them our current cultural trajectory and following that trajectory to its logical conclusion. It is perhaps too much to expect of her, but with principle and decency she should be able to manage. Of course you will both need to obtain principle and decency, and this will no doubt be for you a Herculean task. Were you both to achieve it, you would be as horrified as I when Sodomites nearly succeed at using government might to force themselves upon you.

>Johannes, it is MHO that you should seek counseling before your feelings can no longer be controlled by projecting them onto others with whom you seem unconsciously to identify.<

And it is MHO that you should seek principle and decency (and learn a bit of logic) before you flippantly embrace depravity and before you trust the words of a quack. The great sadness here is that my seeking counseling is quite a simple matter, but your task is nearly impossible.