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To: trouthead who wrote (12231)	12/1/1998 3:22:00 PM
From: uu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

Junior Balloon: > NT is a threat to SUNW. This is the same concern brought up over and over and over ever since Sun came up with its internet computing model via Java. But the truth of the matter is, believe it or not, NT will not only not be a threat to Sun, but in fact it will help Sun's bottom line! The internet computing model introduced by Sun via Java is best performed in a a multi tier architecture. What this means is that you have a main server, a middle server and a bunch of thin clients working with these servers. NT, in most cases - if not all cases - , is a perfect scenerio for being the middle server but it can never be the main backend server because of its lack of scalability and performance compare to UNIX. It is the backend main server where the big profit margins are and where Sun has a strong lead over everyone else (including HP and IBM). So in a way if you think about it, NT will push for Sun's internet computing model since it is cheap and works great as a middle server in this growing architecture. And the spread of Sun's computing model will translate into great growth for Sun. Like I said before, with the latest court rulling against Microsoft, when it comes to the new computing (i.e. thin client/server centric architecture via Java which is spreading everywhere thanks to companies such as Oracle, and IBM), Microsoft is nothing but a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems whose purpose in life is to push for Sun's technology. In the process of doing so, the subsidiary (namely Microsoft) will make great profits, but ultimately the big gainer will be its parent company (namely Sun Microsystems)!! Regards, Addi Jamshidi

To: trouthead who wrote (12231)	12/1/1998 5:16:00 PM
From: Mephisto	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

[Many things could happen. Even the possibility, god forbid, of MSFT and SUNW working together. ] Hi Junior Balloon! See post to me, (12188) from Xy Zhao. The post refers to an interview with Masood Jabbar, president of SUNW"s Compueter Systems Division. [ Mr. Jabbar said, "Most of my customers have a heterogeneous environment, and I've got to find a way to interoperate with them," Jabbar said. As part of this new willingness to recognize the customer's right to choose the Wintel option, Jabbar said Sun has licensed a Windows NT 4.0 kernel through AT&T Advanced Server for Unix. "We have gone and licensed from AT&T the NT 4.0 services layer. It's not NT 4.0, the entire OS; there's a service layer that sits on top of 4.0 that allows you to authenticate, that gives you access to directory services, gives you an access for shared services. "We were doing a pretty good job of servicing an NT client from a Solaris server, but it was very hard to co-exist in the NT-dominated server environment, and drop a Solaris server in there, because we could not authenticate off a Solaris server. But this technology allows us to do that. So now, for example, I have large customers that had over 800 NT domain servers. By dropping a Solaris server in there, we can cut that (number) in at least half," Jabbar claimed. He said that one of Sun's strengths is the ability to run multiple applications, thereby allowing the elimination of servers. "NT today doesn't run multiple services on a single server; it doesn't run multiple applications on a single server. Well, that's what we do best, OK?" Despite having licensed the Windows 4.0 services layer, Jabbar still contends that Windows is not an open platform, saying that Sun's platform is every bit as open, if not more so." ] I don't understand the significance of "an open platform" but I know my husband agrees with Mr. Jabbar's opinion that Windows is not an open platform. Also, I read recently that SUNW signed an an agreement with Intel. Thought it had to do with Intel's new chip. You could always looks for information on Sun's homepage, although someone here may recall the agreement.