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To: DLL who wrote (22928)	12/2/1998 9:56:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

DLL, This is how: Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes,and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas, and consulted that they might take Jesus by subtlety, and kill him. matt-26 The governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying Let him be crucified. ....then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children 27 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know. Him being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Chris

To: DLL who wrote (22928)	12/2/1998 10:18:00 PM
From: Chris land	Respond to of 39621

DLL, And again: For ye brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us: and they please not God and are contrary to all men: Thess 2 In light of this passage we see that the Jews 1. Killed their prophets 2. Killed the Lord 3. Persecute the church 4. Are not pleasing to God 5. Are contrary to all men I don't know what your involved with but if you want to fight against the word of truth then I am up for the challenge. Chris

To: DLL who wrote (22928)	12/2/1998 10:27:00 PM
From: Chris land	Respond to of 39621

DLL, And again: This time Jesus is speaking to his disciples O Jerusalem, jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. And desolate it has been, do you deny it? Chris

To: DLL who wrote (22928)	12/2/1998 10:46:00 PM
From: Chris land	Respond to of 39621

DLL, Who do you think this discource was presented to? Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your father did, so do ye. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One of whom ye have been now th betrayers and murderers: Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. Act 7 It was not presented to the Romans, it was presented to Jewish leaders. Chris

To: DLL who wrote (22928)	12/2/1998 11:17:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"Your understanding of scripture is a bit simplistic, you should study to show yourself approved. You will be held accountable for the misunderstanding you spread." Hi Chris, Here are few interesting words from Mr. DLL the wise scholar of modern Judaism. DLL finds that Christ and His Church--Christianity-- lack depth and spirituality, so he goes to find his depth and spirituality in modern antichrist Judaism. How can any true Christian who is filled with the Holy Spirit--has God living in him--- a want-to-be anything but in the Body of Christ. We are living in strange and dark days. Want-to-be memebers of modern antichrist Judaism rather than in the Body of Christ---the Christian Church. After spending an hour of my valuable time in a work of love collecting Scriptures to show him his error, he repaid me with ridicule and hate. To: DLL (19938 ) From: Emile Vidrine Wednesday, Aug 5 1998 1:13AM ET Reply # of 22945 "2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. As a child Timothy had only the OT." Hello DLL, Let us examine your allegation under the bright light of Scripture and Church history. The second epistle of Timothy was written approx. 66 A.D. Timothy was the youngest ordained disciple of Paul. Most scholars estimate his age at the writing of 2Tim. at or about 20 years old. That would make his birth at approx. 46 A.D. Timothy was born in the city of Lystra(Acts 16:1) in the province of Lycaonia next to Galatia. The Church was established in Lystra during Paul's first missionary journey(Acts 14:55,6). This means that Timothy's mother and grandmother were probably converted during Paul's first or second missionary journey. The date of Paul's first missionary journey is approx. 45 A.D. The date of the second missionary journey is approx. 50 A.D. Several epistles and possibly two of the Gospels were already circulating by the early 50s. The Gospel had been preached during two missionary journeys in the Church of Lystra. Timothy's mother and grandmother had both heard and probably read part of the New Tesatament while Timothy was still a baby. This would mean that Tomothy grew up with a knowledge of both the Old Testament Scriptures as well as the New. Your allegation that, "As a child Timothy had only the OT.", is contradicted by the Scriptural and historical evidence. A simple reading of the Scriptures and a little knowledge of Church history shows that Timothy had both the written Old Testament and the oral(and probably written) New Testament as a child. From the time he was a baby the Gospel was being preached in the Church of his parents in Lystra. Timothy, at a minimum, heard the Gospel preached from a very early age. May Christ give you the strength to know and accept the truth when you see it. I have not abandoned you yet, young soldier of the Cross. In the love of Christ, Emile