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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17273)	12/4/1998 5:17:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

I agree. How can the Republican party distance itself from people like Ish? And that too, within the span of a year or two? That ain't gonna happen. It will take at least a half-generation i.e. 15 years, before things can change to the extent that people like us can include the Republican Party in our list of choices...

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17273)	12/4/1998 5:18:00 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Certainly you know that there are many women who could never give up a child for adoption anyway I guess it would be better to kill it beforehand? alan w

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17273)	12/4/1998 5:39:00 PM
From: RJC2006	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

<<< Ish and Bob, I know you guys must know better than to make statements like this and you are trying to stir things up. First of all, that poor girls actions later on (especially with regards to relationships etc) are all predetermined to fail based on her unfortunate circumstances early on. Her entire life will probably be littered with abusive relationships etc. Incest is just not something you "get over" and move on with your life. Furthermore, Ish, asking a 14 year old to have a baby and give it up for adoption in these circumstances is beyond cruel.>>> Oh please...enough of the rhetoric. We have teenagers who take a break from the prom dance to have their baby in an alley and throw it in the garbage can because they are pissed off that they missed the last Marilyn Manson song. Adoption as cruelty...Puhleeeze. <<<<Certainly you know that there are many women that could never give up a child for adoption anyway - imagine that, if you can, having a child that is your own flesh and blood and handing it off to some Doctor and never seeing him/her again.>>>> Yeah, why do that when you can have the doctor snatch it out after only three months of pregnancy or you can throw it in the trash bin if you decide it's an inconvenience. <<<Think you could do it? No big deal huh? I want guys like you to proclaim your views on topics like this loudly because it will scare many into the liberal side on these issues.>>> Well, my sister didn't seem to have any problem doing it. Of course she's in her 20's and thought it would be a "good experience" to have a baby even if she had to put it up for adoption. Shows you where Generation X is coming from and what they've been given to work with. What I never hear from your side Michelle is anything about all the women who walk into abortion clinics only to run out of there as fast as they can because they find out that the whole process isn't as wonderful as the left makes it out to be. I know a lot more women that have been emotionally harmed due to abortion than giving a baby up to adoption. Abortionists never mention anything about the guilt and remorse that many women feel as a result of an abortion but by God there always on the mark to bring it up about adoption even though it's mostly a false assumption. At least the baby lives...sheesh.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17273)	12/4/1998 6:27:00 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 67261

<<I know you guys must know better than to make statements like this and you are trying to stir things up. First of all, that poor girls actions later on (especially with regards to relationships etc) are all predetermined to fail based on her unfortunate circumstances early on. Her entire life will probably be littered with abusive relationships etc. Incest is just not something you "get over" and move on with your life. Furthermore, Ish, asking a 14 year old to have a baby and give it up for adoption in these circumstances is beyond cruel. Certainly you know that there are many women that could never give up a child for adoption anyway - imagine that, if you can, having a child that is your own flesh and blood and handing it off to some Doctor and never seeing him/her again. Think you could do it? No big deal huh? I want guys like you to proclaim your views on topics like this loudly because it will scare many into the liberal side on these issues. Michelle >> Cute but no sale. Out of you, Dipy, Bob and myself I was the only one to know the situation. She started having sex with her stepfather's brother when she was 12. Nope, I don't think that was right. She was actually the seducer and again some restraint was in order. Now things have worked out for the good, why are you against that? <<Furthermore, Ish, asking a 14 year old to have a baby and give it up for adoption in these circumstances is beyond cruel. Certainly you know that there are many women that could never give up a child for adoption anyway - imagine that, if you can, having a child that is your own flesh and blood and handing it off to some Doctor and never seeing him/her again. >> As opposed to living with killing it? Imagine killing your own baby. That might be with you for a while. <<No big deal huh? >> It would be a very big deal and take some courage. <<I want guys like you to proclaim your views on topics like this loudly because it will scare many into the liberal side on these issues.>> Uh, save your babies life or kill it?