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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (26479)12/4/1998 9:57:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 108807
 
The pro-Zionist Jewish community can definitely be faulted for supporting and even applauding this brutality against the Palestinian people. But Zionist support in America is not limited to the Jewish community.
The Christian Fundamentalist have been in the forefront in lobbying and pressuring Congress for American tax dollars in support of their religious experiment in Palestine. Most readers on this thread do not understand the political, economic and theological role that Dispensationalist Christians have played in the Zionist confiscation of land from Christian and Moslem Palestinians. The central driving force of these fundamentalist is a novel and theoretical reinterpretation of Scriptures that reduces Jesus and his Spiritual Kingdom to a worldly Jewish kingdom in Palestine. The Church had always believed and taught that Jesus had fulfilled the Old Testament Scriptures and established the spiritual Kingdom of God.
In the last century a preacher by the name of Darby invented a new theory that would paralledl the two thousand year old theory of rabbincial Judaism. That theory stated that Jesus had failed to establish his Kingdom and that he would return to establish a worldly kingdom when the Jews would be regathered in Israel. These early fundamentalist harnesses themselves to the ancient Zionist dream of a worldly kingdom and began to work with the Zionist to reestablish a worldly Jewish kingdom in Palestine.
Lord Balfour was a convert and a disciple of Darby. Lord Balfour was the Prime Minister in England, with the encouragement and leadership of Zionist leaders, who authored the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was an illegal agreement to confiscate land from the Palestinians to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
So, the coalition that we see today between Zionist and Fundamentalist really started over 100 years ago and culminated with the fraudulent Balfour Declaration. This was the arrogant British Gov.s illegal agreement to forciably remove Palestinians from their land to give it to Jewish colonialists from around the world. The Palestinians have become second class citizens, forced into exile and many slaughtered.

Emile



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (26479)12/7/1998 4:59:00 PM
From: E  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Emile, N. asked me to post this to you.

No question that there are serious criticisms to be made about Israeli policy toward the Palestinians. But the backdrop to the development of hard policies is the historical identification of the religious leadership of the Palestinians with the Nazis, and the development of the Palestinian resistance to Israel in the direction of armed action and terror.

The deeper background is the experience of unrelenting hatred and discrimination against Jews, terminating in the attempt to exterminate them.

One can understand why such a persecuted minority would want its own slate, army, and police, and to be in full command of its own security.

That the Jews survived centuries of Christian persecution in numbers sufficient to ultimately allow them to found a state is held to be attributable to the weight given Paul's notion that, at the end of time, the Jews would be converted. It was this notion that prevented the pogroms of the medieval period from running to their full extent.

The two statements by Paul are in Romans. The great scholar of Christian-Jewish relations, James Parkes, commenting on them, says, "These two statements are important, for they preserved the Jews during the middle ages from complete extinction. For it was argued that if they were completely extinguished, there would be none to provide the converted remnant which was to be the final crown of the Church."