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To: Rob S. who wrote (29032)12/5/1998 5:14:00 PM
From: FR1  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
The problem with the above is that this IS THE NORM for the book business - all competitors take advantage of the same supply dynamics. This model for supplying inventory up front and charging for it latter evolved because small book stores could not manage otherwise.

Actually this is not the norm and what you are saying is not correct.

It works like this:
Distributors:Pulishers have a discount they negotiate with distributors. In some cases, especially with speciality small press distributors (like Bookpeople, Publishers Group West, etc.), the publisher accepts a consignment deal of 55%. The distributors then have a sales force and go out and sell the books to bookstores at a lower discount. The distributors also sell to chains bookstores, like Barnes and Noble.

Bookstores: Almost all publishers have a discount schedule for bookstores (unless the publisher has a exclusive arrangement with a distributor who handles all orders). The discount schedule ranges from 20% off retail up to around 46% off retail for a big chain like Barnes and Noble. Almost all sales are net30 unless it is a single copy order which is usually cash (called a STOP order).

Amazon: What is unusual about the Amazon arrangement is that the distributor has been completely eliminated from the equation. In other words, Amazon is buying books at 55% consignment while the average bookstore is getting 40% to 46% off retail net 30 (and the book is not sold when ordered). Add to this the fact that Amazon does not need a super expensive store with location, location, location and you have a major advantage.

I have been doing this for a number of years and I have never heard of any bookstore that has your type arrangement. Name me three major bookstores that have a 55% consignment arrangement with all their publishers (or name me 3 well known publishers that offer this to bookstores - the bookstores would love to hear it!). There are none.

In a business where margins of a few percent are major this is a big event.

The big news here is that the bookstore (Amazon) is now also the consignment distributor. That is big news, gives Amazon a large profit advantage which will change the industry a lot.

You may want to argue that barnesandnoble.com (BKS) will rush up and crush Amazon. I'm not so sure. Lots of problems to be worked out there. What is BKS going to do? Are they going to change their whole way of ordering books to 55% consignment? Yeah, right. Tell the publishers that. Fat chance. Also, BKS has spent years telling all the small presses to get lost (if we are not doing $100K/year in business with you we do not want to order from you). This has reduced BKS to doing single copy orders which is a loser. A big web site will draw a lot of single copy orders.

Amazon.com buys 60% of their books from Ingram which is now owned by Barnes & Noble.
Please cite me a url for this. The last I heard there was a army of protests and the deal was far from done. The American Booksellers Association, for one, has said it will use all its resources to fight the merger. The argument against this is that the deal will now be Ingram + Barnes&Noble + Burtelsman (owner of random house, Doubleday, damn near all the magazines in Germany,etc). Amazon has said it is building its own fulfillment system and that is why you see a lot of the losses coming next year. Even if the deal goes through it's going to be a real tough transition. You will have a large business, owned by a giant corp that wants to suck up any profits, trying to reshape itself and compete with the upstart that is lean and mean. It's DELL vs IBM.