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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17439)	12/5/1998 7:13:00 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 67261

<<Plus Iran-contra had some real Constitutional issues involved, like war powers. >> Do you want to mention the missile attack on the Sudanese pill factory that diverted attention from the Monica issue and Clinton has blocked any investigation of?

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17439)	12/5/1998 7:44:00 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

More liberal revisionist bullsh**. Just can't stand how successful Reagan and Bush were, can you Danny boy? They were two Presidents who also happened to be decent men as opposed to the swine who currently is filthifying the WH. JLA

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17439)	12/5/1998 10:59:00 PM
From: JBL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Daniel, Clinton is a populist. I've often thought about him as a modern Huey Long, Governor of Louisiana from 1928-1932. Likeable, creative, social, great orator, talented liar, and champion of popular causes. These people end up seeing themselves as Messias of a Greater Cause to which the law does not apply. Their modus operendi is to mortgage the future, and to distribute wealth and favors to their supporters, in order to remain popular with them. Like mafia dons, they use this popularity with the public and the media to shield themselves from the law, and corrupt the idealists that work with or for them. The success of this model has found its way in finances, where it is now more important to have a "great story" and spin it, than to have a sound business plan, and show profits. Look at Internet companies, they have "Clinton" written all other them : a great story, a wild ammount of spin, happy investors, corrupt analysts and underwriters, instant gratification, and a future mortgaged by debts and mounting losses. Like Clinton, they are a disaster in the making.

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17439)	12/6/1998 8:35:00 AM
From: cody andre	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

The mantra has changed from "it's all about sex" to "it's all politics" ?

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17439)	12/6/1998 9:18:00 AM
From: lorrie coey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Yes! Yes! Yes! Beautiful....your post bears repeating because it illustrates the abject Truth re: "political truth" and exposes the individual in possesion of the misappropriated gavel...His Royal Lowness, Knight of Cruex and Preparation "H"yde! "If citizens are allowed to lie with impunity -- or encourage others to tell false stories or hide evidence -- judges and juries cannot reach just results," said Hyde, R-Ill. "At that point, the courtroom becomes an arena for artful liars and the jury a mere focus group choosing between alternative fictions." . . . But some people recalled what Hyde said in 1987, in Congress' inquiry into the Iran-contra affair. Defending the Reagan administration, Hyde said condemnation of all lying "just seems to me too simplistic." "In the murkier grayness of the real world, choices must often be made," Hyde said of the Reagan administration's covert aid to anti-communist rebels in Nicaragua. Hypocrite or not, adulterous papal knight Hyde sure doesn't suffer from the hobgoblin of small minds, eh, JLA? . . . Republicans on the Judiciary Committee replied Friday night, "Context does matter, and the facts of the Iran-contra affair and President Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky could not be more different." "No one lied under oath, after swearing to tell the truth, and no one ever lied for personal gain," said the Republicans' statement, issued by their spokesman, Paul McNulty. Saying no one lied under oath in Iran-contra is a bit dubious, if you hold with the legal standard of proof. ..."just too simplistic", that's rich! Please, Sir Henry...