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To: Krowbar who wrote (26525)	12/6/1998 9:42:00 AM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Del, You have to consider the possibility that the anti-God forces are revising history to discredit Jesus Christ and christianity. Your faith in those you agree with is also a marvel to behold! <ggg> Bob

To: Krowbar who wrote (26525)	12/11/1998 12:08:00 AM
From: JF Quinnelly	Respond to of 108807

Sorry, I'm too busy to do the History Channel's work for them. Gnosticism, Docetism, and Montanism had their time in the sun during the 2nd Century, and were pretty much done by 180. The Council of Nicea was in the 4th Century, 325, and was convened to dispute the teachings of Arius of Alexandria. Arian theology was somewhat like today's Jehovah's Witnesses in arguing that Christ was a finite, created being, as opposed to being infinite god. It has nothing to do with the Aeons, Demiurges and all the rest of the intricate cosmology of the gnostics. While I don't have time to clear up the History Channel's problems, I'll at least toss out a bone about Constantine, since I've seen a bunch of nonsense written about him. Constantine didn't make Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire. What he did was issue the "Milan Edict of Toleration" that ended the persecutions and restored Christian property which had been seized. Although Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, his heir and successor Constantius was an Arian, and Arians held sway during his 25 year reign. Constantius' successor was Julian the Apostate, a pagan, who ruled only two years in the 360's. Julian's successor was Theodosius, and it was he who suppressed both paganism and Arianism, establishing Christianity as the sole religion of Rome in 391. Theodosius was the last emperor to rule over a unified Roman Empire. By 410 the city of Rome had fallen to the barbarians, and in 476 Odoacer became the first barbarian king of Italy, marking the end of the Roman Empire in the West. The unified Roman church and state lasted less than 100 years, a far cry from the fevered imaginings I so often see.