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To: EPS who wrote (24637)12/6/1998 3:21:00 PM
From: EPS  Respond to of 42771
 
Novell's Promise: Native NDS For NT

-- Sat, 5 Dec 1998 01:42 EST

Dec. 04, 1998 (InternetWeek - CMP via COMTEX) -- Novell's efforts to
position NDS as a cross-platform technology gained new credibility last
week.

Making good on an earlier promise, the company released a new version
of its flagship directory platform, Novell Directory Services (NDS),
that runs natively on Windows NT.

The announcement follows high-profile NDS alliances, including one
with Cisco, that have given strong momentum to the directory platform.

NetWare Not Required

NDS for NT 2.0 removes the requirement found in NDS for NT 1.0,
released last year, that a NetWare server host the directory database
for NT.

Still, Novell is keeping its NetWare asset in the game. Certain NDS
utilities, including a directory repair utility, are not being ported
to NT.

"We don't recommend pure NT," said Novell director of marketing
Michael Simpson.

Where Novell sees the biggest need for the product and the most
customer interest, Simpson added, is among branch office locations that
may have deployed NT but want the directory control offered by NDS.

Indeed, getting NDS into these accounts is at the core of Novell's
product strategy, since other products, such as Novell's Z.E.N.works
desktop management and software distribution platform, enable NDS.

"This opens up a huge opportunity [for us] for directory-based
infrastructure products," Simpson said.

Novell is pushing NDS hard while Microsoft's Active Directory, the
distributed directory for Windows 2000 (formerly Windows NT 5.0),
experiences ongoing delays.

Last week, for instance, Novell revealed that NDS for NT 2.0 can
import more than 40,000 objects from an NT domain; it claims 40,000 is
the maximum domain size currently supported by NT.

But analysts think the product will appeal mainly to the NetWare
installed base.

"I think they'll predominantly get folks who have NetWare installed,
who might have toyed with the idea of moving to NT, and now see they
don't need to," said Bob Sakakeeny, an analyst at the Aberdeen Group.

Still, Sakakeeny agreed that once NDS for NT is deployed, customers
may look favorably on other NDS-based products.

NDS for NT 2.0 is sold as two separate components: $26 per user and
$695 per NT replica server.

For a limited time, Novell is offering NetWare 4.x and NetWare 5
customers the NT replica server free for each NetWare server license
they already have. NDS for NT 1.0 customers can obtain a free matching
user license for NDS for NT 2.0 through Jan. 31, 1999.

On a separate note, Novell last week flatly denied a published report
that it plans to release NDS into the open source code software
community. Simpson said, however, that the company has released certain
elements of NDS to standards bodies.

SUMMARY
NDS for NT
- Runs natively on Windows NT without requiring a NetWare server
- Not all NDS utilities are being ported to NT
- Pricing is $26 per user and $695 per Windows NT replica server


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By: Ellis Booker
Copyright 1998 CMP Media Inc.

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To: EPS who wrote (24637)12/6/1998 3:25:00 PM
From: EPS  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42771
 
Networking Products Under the Microscope -- VARBUsiness labs dissects
a diverse set of equipment that VARs will find sure to please

-- Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:21 EST

Dec. 04, 1998 (VARBusiness - CMP via COMTEX) -- In this issue, we took
something of a departure from our usual practice by offering three
single-product reviews.

First, we gathered several products that will work well in
departmental networking scenarios, or in the enterprise for that
matter: a network-attached RAID and a heavyweight color laser printer
that also attaches directly to a network.

We didn't stop there, however. We also fired up Novell NetWare 4.2
for Small Business and found it to be a worthy potential competitor for
a similar product that hails from Redmond, Wash.

All in all, this is a solid set of networking products that
VARBusiness Labs recommends to resellers who are setting up customers'
networking infrastructures.

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NetWare for Small Business 4.2

Shipping since the first day of Fall Comdex, the latest version of
NetWare for Small Business, Version 4.2, includes many additions and
extensions that let it compete with Microsoft's NT 4.0 Small Business
Server. Price-wise, a five-client license for NetWare for Small
Business 4.2 costs $1,295, compared with $1,495 for a five-license
version of Microsoft SBS.

NetWare for Small Business 4.2 comes on six CDs, one for the server
installation, one for client installation and several for other bundled
products. We found the product easy to install and get running to the
point that we had a functioning network. It also seemed to us that once
a reseller had configured this product and installed it in a customer
location, the end user could continue to administer it, performing
routine tasks that local administrators need to accomplish, such as
adding users or groups of users.

One of the nice things about the product is that it has a relatively
large maximum-user count (50-twice as large as that for Microsoft's
product), and you can purchase additional licenses for users one at a
time up to that limit. The software includes several bundled products,
including Novell's Border Manager Fast Cache, which speeds up Internet
access; Netscape's FastStart server, which provides Internet services;
virus scanning from McAfee Associates; and NetObjects Fusion for easily
generating Web pages. Those bundled products are provided on a separate
"Partner CD" in the package. On separate CDs are also Oracle8 server
and German company Tobit Software's (www.tobit.com) network fax
software.

We reviewed the Gold Candidate 2 set of disks for most of the
software. We found no glitches in the installation process and were
able to accomplish most of the install and setup chores without
recourse to documentation. Put the server CD in the CD-ROM drive and
the install floppy in the floppy drive, turn the server on, and you're
off and running.

The installation program will format the server drive, installing a
100-MB DOS partition (DR-DOS from Caldera Inc.). It then installs the
NetWare files and starts the NetWare server. During the installation,
the program asked for the name of a driver for the SCSI adapter in the
Compaq Deskpro 6000 that we were using as a server. (Many small
businesses will likely use a simple desktop computer for a file
server.) Thankfully, there was an install option to continue without
naming the driver, which we picked. From there, Install figured out we
had an AH 2940 adapter and installed the driver for it.

The file copy and install took well over two hours, and this was on a
266-MHz machine. In this area, Microsoft's SBS is superior. The NetWare
for Small Business 4.2 install puts in standard NetWare 4.11, along
with the necessary protocols (IPX) and NetWare Loadable Modules to get
the network up and running.

With the installation finished, the server restarted and we were left
with a DOS prompt. At this point, we went on to the client
installation.

The client runs on Windows 95/98 or NT 4.0. Installation puts the
NetWare 32-bit client onto the client system, as well as the
appropriate protocols. The process is automatic, driven by a Quick
Start program that comes on the client CD-ROM disk.

Also on the client disk is an install program for GroupWise 5.2,
Novell's groupware software. It found the GroupWise server on our
NetWare server and put itself into place like a hand in a glove.

Now we were able to use the NetWare Easy Administration Tool, a
Windows-based program, to create groups, add users and so forth. This
tool is very intuitive, with tabbed dialog boxes that guide even
novices in NetWare through setting up a network. We had seven users
(including the administrator) on the network, in about a half hour.

Then we installed the FastStart Internet server, which is on the
Partner disk. Putting this CD in the drive causes an autostart program
to come up with selections for each of the partner programs. We picked
the server, and an install program guided us through the installation
of the Netscape server.

At this point, a reseller would have configured a Novell network for
a small business in roughly three hours. But the VAR could instead
provide any computer-literate user with some simple training and leave
that person to administer the network; the tasks required are within
that user's capability. The VAR would be available, of course, as a
backup network administrator in case of difficulty.

For NetWare VARs, this product is an easy way into small-business
customers, with an inexpensive, easily set up network solution.

VAR FACTS
Product: Novell NetWare for Small Business 4.2

Price: $1,295 (server plus five users; additional users: $70 each.
Upgrade price for five, 10 and 25 users is $695, $995 and $1,695,
respectively.)

In Short: A nice bundle of tools and basic networking software to
provide a solid networking solution for small businesses.

Vendor: Novell Inc. Orem, Utah
(801) 222-6000 - www.novell.com
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By: David Gabel Executive, Technology Editor and Sun Ying Tam,
Technical Director
Copyright 1998 CMP Media Inc.


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To: EPS who wrote (24637)12/9/1998 2:17:00 AM
From: PJ Strifas  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42771
 
Hello!

Sorry in being late, I've been dealing with a PC Meltdown courtesy of of MSFT's MS Office SR-2...that's another story :)

OK, from what I understand, CSCO has their own idea about Directories and it doesn't include Novell. There's one undisputable fact here, Novell NDS is a proven working/shipping product and supporting it would mean giving their ONLY real competitor a clear advantage.

Could you see CSCO actually having success in migrating NDS users to their IOS (Internetworking OS) which runs on their equipment??

That's why they made their move to go with MSFT. From my view, it was the best course of action for them. They would get the opportunity to create the de facto directory services for what many believe to be the NOS of the future (NT 2000/5.0).

I recently had a chat with 2 CNIs (Certified Novell Instructors) who had visited the Provo Campus for some in-depth work with the next version of NDS. They tell me that CSCO begrudgingly accepted what their clients were screaming for them to do, support NDS. In fact, CSCO was actually supporting NDS on a case-by-case basis before the announcement.

Actually, CSCO's only opening APIs to NOVL to allow them to make the necessary hooks into CSCO's own IOS. Most of this follows the standards CSCO and MSFT are pursuing under the DEN (directory enabled networks) task force.

There is no license agreement or bundling agreement between the 2 companies. Basically, either Novell Consulting Services or Cisco will make the necessary adjustments to whomever wants NDS support on their network(s). And from what I understand, a client has to ASK for this support.

I'll try and get you some detailed information from other sources so that you can make your own judgements.

Peter Strifas