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To: H James Morris who wrote (29103)12/6/1998 5:40:00 PM
From: brian z  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
This is from Business Week. Dose anyone think that this kind of reasoning (I guess we have heard a lot of that) is reasonable to a momentum stock like AMZN? I don't think so.

Street Wise by Amey Stone

BARNES & NOBLE -- A BETTER PLAY THAN AMAZON?

Amazon.com (AMZN) may have an advantage over bricks-and-mortar retailers, thanks to the economics of selling goods online: the ability to reach a
mass audience with a virtually unlimited, searchable selection of products -- without incurring huge overhead costs. But unfortunately for investors who
didn't get in early, Amazon's stock price already reflects much of the company's potential. At more than $200 a share, shares of the fast-growing but
still money-losing company may offer more risk than reward.

In that light, Barnes & Noble (BKS), which may seem somewhat stodgy compared to the Internet upstart, starts to look attractive. It, too, is selling
books online -- albeit far fewer of them than Amazon. But it also has more than 1,000 retail stores selling books over-the-counter. And while the
money-losing Web site has been a drag on the company's overall earnings, Barnes & Noble is solidly profitable on an annual basis. "You get a retail
and an online presence with earnings," says Ken Schapiro, a private money manager who has been buying Barnes & Noble for accounts at his firm,
Condor Capital in Martinsville, N.J.

Barnes's stock price is certainly more reasonable than Amazon's. BKS has hovered around 30 in recent weeks and closed on Dec. 2 at 31 1/2, down
35% from its 52-week high of 48. Merrill Lynch analyst Daniel D. Barry believes the stock is undervalued and set a 12-month price target of $50 in a
Nov. 20 report.

The problem -- and the opportunity -- for BKS shareholders, is that the huge expense of operating and marketing barnesandnoble.com, is hurting
earnings and obscuring the impressive growth at Barnes & Noble superstores. The top bookseller in the U.S., Barnes's retail operation is split about
evenly between superstores and mall stores under the B. Dalton, Doubleday, and Scribner names (although the bulk of profits come from the
superstores). It is on track to sell more than $3 billion worth of merchandise in calendar year 1998 -- still a far sight more than the $540 million
Amazon is expected to sell.

The company's biggest problem is that its Web-site expenses are eating up profits from the bricks-and-mortar stores. Third-quarter results looked
particularly dire (although the company usually makes all its money in the fourth quarter): On Nov. 19 Barnes reported a loss of $4.6 million, equal to
about 7 cents per share, which was about 4 cents worse than consensus analysts' estimates. Larger-than-expected Internet losses added up to 18
cents per share.

By contrast, net earnings from the traditional retail business were up 120%, to $0.11 per share. Superstore sales rose 11%, to $554 million. The
company has expanded gross margins for its retail business for seven consecutive quarters by selling a higher-priced mix of products through its
superstores and improving its efficiency in book distribution and other areas. And Barnes recently announced a plan to purchase Ingram Book Group,
the world's largest book distributor, for $600 million. The acquisition, which includes 11 distribution centers, should allow Barnes to deliver books
faster and cheaper.

If Barnes & Noble still had only its traditional retail division, Merrill's Barry estimates that it would trade at about $47 a share. Its valuation would then
be comparable with that of other high-growth retailers, his Nov. 20 report noted.

Oddly, while pure Internet plays are trading in the stratosphere, Barnes isn't getting much credit from investors for its Internet division. Despite its
third-quarter loss, barnesandnoble.com did $17.2 million in sales -- a 300% increase from the corresponding quarter last year and up 38% from the
second quarter. Now, Barnes is doing what it can to minimize losses and unlock some of the value of its Internet division. In mid-November, it
completed the sale of half of barnesandnoble.com to German media giant Bertelsmann for $200 million. So Bertelsmann now gets half the losses. In
1999, Barry estimates, those losses will total $84 million, up 71% over 1998's losses.

The key to unlocking the Web site's value is to spin it off, many analysts believe. Barnes's management hopes to sell part of the Internet business
through an initial public offering in early 1999. If the IPO, originally set for late summer '98 but delayed because of the stock market sell-off, gets a
reception anything like that of other Internet IPOs, it should give BKS a big lift. On news of the impending IPO, S&P's equity research group raised
Barnes to a strong buy. "Once spun off, barnesandnoble.com's startup losses will no longer obscure BKS's retailing results," S&P analyst William
Donald wrote on Aug. 24, before the IPO was delayed. (He reiterated the strong buy after third-quarter earnings were released.)

Although Barnes & Noble and Amazon.com are often compared, in a few years they may not be in such direct competition. Amazon's game plan is to
morph from an online book seller into an Internet mass marketer that sells a range of products. But Barnes & Noble remains rooted in the book
business.

If E-commerce grows exponentially in coming years, as expected, the book business isn't a bad place to be. Demographics are in its favor, thanks to
rising educational levels and an aging population. And while Amazon clearly has the lead brand name with today's Internet audience, some analysts
believe that when mainstream Americans start flooding online, Barnes & Noble will be the name they turn to for books. Amazon's sales may grow
faster. But given the newbie's sky-high stock price, right now Barnes & Noble seems a better buy for investors.

By Amey Stone in New York



To: H James Morris who wrote (29103)12/6/1998 8:31:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 

Mike Batter,
I read that the profession that has taken the worst beating betting down the Internet stocks
are accountants.
Can you think of a more fundamentals oriented profession?


James,

Mike keeps talking about the bears typing hype. I cannot find any fundamentals in any of Mike's posts. Not once!

Glenn