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To: Ilaine who wrote (26676)12/7/1998 6:51:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
CobaltBlue,
I saw a movie once about a dragon, a wizard and an apprentice sorcerer. The apprentice with the help of the wizard together killed the dragon and after it was dead the politicians who had refused to help throughout the whole movie climbed up onto the dragon's dead body and took the credit. The wizard and apprentice looked at them in disbelief and shook there heads. It was very funny because it's too true.

The USSR was going to fall from it's own weight. If we had just let it alone it would have crumbled anyhow. Reagan was just grandstanding at the wall saying "tear down this wall". The Soviet Union was rotting from within. He knew it because of the CIA reports he read. He was just positioning himself to take the credit. (And Bush too.) And doesn't everyone eat it up, just like the towns people when they saw their mayor on top of the dead dragon!

Bob

PS I finally just skipped the last 70 posts. Where do you guys find the time?!



To: Ilaine who wrote (26676)12/7/1998 7:31:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
CB,

I have to agree with Bob on that one (will wonders never cease): the Soviet Union collapsed from internal economic inefficiencies, not any external pressure. I would have to say the US handled that collapse rather poorly, and we're seeing the results of that now. In a few years we could easily have a nationalist government back in Moscow, whether from the left or right makes little difference.

JFQ and I did Nicaragua at some length on DAR a little while back, and I probably shouldn't rake those old coals over again. But do you really think the Sandinistas were a significant security threat to the US? Do you think there would have been any Sandinistas if we hadn't spent so much time and money building up an incompetent fool like Somoza?

Do you think the Afghans are any better off under the Taleban? Do you think the US is any better off with Afghanistan under the Taleban, sheltering and assisting the good folks that blow up embassies for fun? Not saying the Russians belonged there, but sending Stinger missiles to Muslim fundamentalists was not the brightest move in history. The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend, something we can also learn from the days when Ron's boys were building up Saddam Hussein, simply because he was fighting the bad Iranians.

The world is a very complicated place, and looking at it from a simplistic viewpoint dominated more by ideology than common sense is very dangerous.

Steve