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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17684)	12/7/1998 9:04:00 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

She's no newcomer. Now do everyone a favor and put a cork in it. There's no open debate possible with your type. JLA

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17684)	12/7/1998 9:05:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 67261

While trying to hunt down another somewhat odd reference, I stumbled upon this amusing account at Salon. I have to thank JBL for reminding me of this font of amusement, allegedly all at the behest of the White House. This is Camille Paglia, who apparently is a regular contributor. She's no longer particularly enamored of Bill, but she's not a Limbot, all sides are subject to derision. Independent counsel Ken Starr's marathon one-day testimony before the fractious Judiciary Committee, which was televised around the world, must have made the U.S. government look like an "I Love Lucy" set overrun by jackasses. All American citizens should feel profoundly embarrassed. Leaving aside the question of Rep. Henry Hyde's astonishingly clumsy and sneeringly partisan chairing of the session, I agree with you that there is something damnably odd about Starr's sexual persona. Your analogies of "chubby queen" and "old auntie" aren't far off the mark. I don't really accept the now-familiar charge that Starr is "jealous" of Clinton; rather, Clinton represents for Starr all the slippin' and slidin' decadent elitism of our vainglorious 1960s generation -- which has mightily screwed up in taking command of the Ship of State. That last line we've heard here before. More at salonmagazine.com

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17684)	12/7/1998 9:38:00 PM
From: JBL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Daniel, I have no problem recognizing that extremism and hypocrisy come from the right side of the political aisle, but the same form of extremism and hypocrisy exists on the left. This Carville mindset of "going to war" against conservatives and trying to settle scores outside of the courts by using manipulation and deception of the public is sick. Gingrich decision to put the Starr report on Internet was sick. But it does not change the facts that Clinton, through his actions, has shown that there should be a serious debate about wether or not he should be impeached. Based on the facts, and based on the law, some people happen to think, and I among them, that he should. The Democrats have concluded that he should not, and, in concert with the White House, think that the polls and the election of Nov 3 gives them the right to attack the process, slander the prosecutors and the Republicans. On Nov 3, Americans reacted to what they viewed as extremism by the right, after the Starr report was made public, but they certainly did not mean to give the Democrats on the HJC a pass to become attack dogs and to make sure that impeachment would never come to be voted on. I found the behavior of many Democrats on the HJC during the Starr testimony repulsive and despicable, and you should too.