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To: Gerald R. Lampton who wrote (22034)	12/8/1998 1:38:00 PM
From: XiaoYao	Respond to of 24154

You know, you are not an engineer. This world should be designed and run by engineers.

To: Gerald R. Lampton who wrote (22034)	12/8/1998 7:31:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes	Respond to of 24154

>>> K, you win. Planning is not a socialist invention. Nor central planning, nor the command economy, nor beaurocracy, nor totalitarianism. Not poverty nor the police state. It might pay for people to realize that there are now a number of countries in the world where people are better off on average than here, and that most of those places are more 'planned' than the US. Still, this is not an argument about superiority (I think.) It is an argument about historical precedents. Personally, I think of American liberalism as starting with the Quakers and Mennonites, the emancipation of the slaves, John Brown, and the freedom train. With Planned Parenthood and Womens Suffrage. An economic agenda was no part of that, just a social egalitarian agenda. A matter of common justice. Cheers, Chaz