To: May Lee who wrote (4799 ) 12/10/1998 1:21:00 PM From: MonsieurGonzo Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 11051
May; RE:" Dude's Ersatz TechSpaetzle Fund ? " >where I can find the symbol... Please forgive my poor humor, May - I was only listing the major stocks for each Tech sub-sector, as we tend to watch and/or trade these a lot: perhaps there are funds which contain just these stocks, or close to it - other folks can tell you what these would be. Tech-specific funds or portfolios have a high risk / high reward. They do not pay out much in dividend income. Many of us amplify the risk/reward by buying LEAPS or, far-out-in-the-future CALLs; some of the folks here engage in even more sophisticated trades with multiple-strike options and/or "spreads". We do NOT recommend these tactics. There are some really fine traders hanging around this SandBox, though - and they tend to be quite open about what they are doing, warts and all. Other Dudes may wish to add/subtract (flame me, etc) for this list, but - if I had to pick 10 TechStocks for an "ersatz fund", they would probably be the following : DELL MSFT INTC AMAT CSCO LU NOK.A TWX AOL EMC ...and for all our efforts, a fixed-dollar amount invested every month or quarter into these 10 stocks (with a $10/trade broker like DATEK) would probably beat The S&P-500 Index handily, which is the benchmark by which most funds and portfolios measure their performance. This year, buying these 10 stocks at random 12 times a year would have earned anywhere from 50% to 150% kapital gain. Thing about TechSpaetzles, though - they giveth, and they taketh away! When you get a big gain in Techs, it is probably prudent (to take some profits) to re-adjust your portfolio (shove some of the profits from Techs into bonds and BigBoys for example) to keep one's portfolio mix balanced. The classic method for organizing an investment portfolio states that you should first determine the ratio of BONDS (or fixed-income stocks like UND - Unum Corp 8.5% MIDS or DUK - Duke Energy ) for which you wish to preserve kapital, to STOCKS -- for which you wish to achieve kapital gains growth. Say you choose the ratio 20:80 = Bonds+Fixed Income : TechStocks+BigBoys to begin with. Then, of the 80% you want to allocate to stocks, you could simply buy and hold SPY - S&P-500 in stock form, et voila! you have beat most professional fund managers, with less risk, lower commissions and NO fees. There are no (direct) fund management fees with SPY, you can buy it for $10-$20 from a discount broker, and it will beat 75% of the funds out there every year. ChrisDude recently advises us that SPY is an automatic Dividend Re-Investment Plan (DRIP) stock; but the dividend is only about 1% per year, and few discount brokers will support DRIP stocks - especially in an IRA. Unless you are very lucky, it is probably better to spread out purchases of SPY over time, rather than buying a lump sum all at once. If you make your own stock mix up, instead of just taking the easy way out and buying 20% UND @ 8.5% APR yield : 80% SPY @ 17% growth/year - it would be a good idea to NOT buy all TechSpaetzles... buy some Berney's BigBoys like MRK (drugs) WMT (retail) C (banks) and GE to add some diversification to the Techs. The more you diversify, the more your BigBoy stock mix risk/reward performance will approach SPY. BTW, if you put your fixed-income portion in an IRA discount broker, divide the APR yield by 0.75 to get the taxable equivalent yield . I use my IRA for income-generators and other discount broker(s) accounts to buy and sell stocks/options for kapital gains. 8.5% APR yield divided by 0.75 = 11.34% APR taxable equiv yield. Finally, the old rule says that it is OK to leverage (by buying CALL or LEAP options) equal to the amount that one would earn in dividend income for the year (that way, even if the LEAPS go bust, you preserve your kapital base) and I would consider this to be very conservative. You will probably get many other comments about portfolios right now, because we are all counting up our gains & losses for the year ! My personal portfolio mix formula is as follows: 10% trading / options <--- lookit me, Mom: no hands! :-) 20% fixed income (like bonds and/or utilities, REIT's, etc) 30% SPY+WEBS and/or BigBoys mix 40% TechSpaetzles mix ...because I am more conservative than most of the Dudes here (^_^) -Steve