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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (26782)12/9/1998 10:38:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 108807
 
Boy, I hate to get involved in this, but the article you quoted is not about 1000 Egyptian officers, it is about the USS Liberty.



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (26782)12/10/1998 2:35:00 AM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 108807
 
Emile,

Thank you. Your mention of this 30 year-old incident illustrates my point perfectly. On superficial analysis, it is easy to conclude that the incident was glossed over (though the attack on the US ship was duly reported) by Zionist sympathizers in the US media. But when we look at larger patterns, we see a different tendency emerging. There has long been a strong inclination for the US Government and media to gloss over atrocities committed by nations regarded as important strategic allies. It is no secret that many military and foreign-policy gurus in Washington - many of whom have no great love for Jews per se - have long regarded Israel as an essential military counterweight to radical Arab states in the Middle East. This was far truer in 1967, when the US had few allies among the Arab states. US policymakers have overlooked atrocities by allies in Latin America, in Asia, in Africa, and of course in the Middle East. Zionist sympathy from the media is a factor, as of course is the active support of Jews in America. But if this position was not seen as fundamentally supportive of American policy, that influence would have had very little impact. As Christine has pointed out, that equation is now changing, and we are seeing a steady decrease in sympathy for Israel and Zionism in politics and the media, though Jews are still in positions of power. American foreign policy led to support of Zionism, not the other way around. Again, the world is far too complex a place to see in black and white.

Your perception of political correctness is very different from mine: when I was in college and paying attention to these things, solidarity with the oppressed in Palestine was as mandatory among the politically correct as opposition to the Vietnam war had been a few years earlier. Times may have changed.

Do you propose that Jews should be banned from making movies?

I do find it odd that with all the atrocious behaviour going on in the world today, you focus so obsessively on the Jews. Would you care to explain?

I'm glad to see that we at least agree about Pat Robertson.

Steve