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Pastimes : Dream Machine ( Build your own PC ) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sean W. Smith who wrote (4084)	12/10/1998 6:27:00 PM
From: Nazbuster	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

Sean and others... I priced out components at Minotaur for the following: $ 98.00 ABIT BH6 152.00 C300A boxed and tested 255.00 128MB SDRAM CAS2 Corsair 184.00 6.4G WD Hard Drive (pricey!) 64.00 TEAC CD 32x 132.00 MATROX Millenium G200 8MB (SGRAM I assume) 64.00 In-Win mid-tower case 19.00 TEAC Floppy 15.00 Logitech 3-button mouse 24.22 Keytronic Keyboard 95.00 Windows 98 --------- $1,102.22 TOTAL How would this compare to a system built with an ASUS board and an AMD 350mz chip? I can get a complete 100mhz system (not overclocked) from a local vendor with lifetime labor warrantee and full support staff in the back room for $1260.84. Both Minotaur and my local vendor charge CA sales tax. Being able to pick up the box and unload it on my vendor is a pretty attractive feature!

To: Sean W. Smith who wrote (4084)	12/10/1998 7:32:00 PM
From: Sean W. Smith	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 14778

Installations News and Woes.... Got all the parts today. The case box appeared to have been damaged. When I unbox the case I heard lots of lots parts. Turns they have dopped the case on the front corner and completely sheared off 8 plastic connectors that attach the front face plate to the metal chassis. Called the vendor around 4:00 PM. I will call again tommorow. They want me to send the whole thing back. I wanna work a better solution. All I need is a face plate. Anyway was determined not to let that stop me. I started assembling the bare bones parts. Notes on Supermicro 750a. Similar in size to the Inwin 500. About 2 inchess taller and maybe 1/2 wider. Its has mounting brackets for 9 Fans not counting the CPU or the Powersupply Fan. 3 Intake Fans on the bottom front. 4 Fans blowing across the 6 5 1/4" Drive Bays at the Front Top. 1 Very large exhaust fan (top rear). Another Fan hanging from the case middle brace that can slide along with another HD mounting bracket around from front to back. The Case came with a Sparkle Power International 300 W ATX PS. The case came with three fans built in. The PS Fan, The 4" Rear Exhaust Fan, and a 4" fan hanging from the middle cross member. 3 Front Mount Fans are not supplied nor are the four to blow across the HD's. The case is heavy and solid. It dissables easily but uses screws. It will hold together OK without any screws in it. The top Lifts off and the doors swing out versus slide off. It comes with cool mounting feet for the MOBO (inwin 500 didn't). They are metal and snap to the case. Don't put them in the wrong whole because they took me 20 minutes to remove one. There is NO MOBO Tray. Its rivited to the case. Installation is usually easier with slide out trays but wasn't that bad. PS has about 10 power connectors on it. This case appears to be a real winner. I imagine it might be pretty loud with a dozen or more fans running. Case as with most doesn't mark polarity on all the LED, reset, and power connectors that connect to the MOBO. Case has lots of louvers and air flow capability. Comes with plenty of screws. No docs other than an exploded diagram of the chassis. Abit BH6 install. Uninventful. Cool brackets for the CPU that hold both PII and Celeron CPU's comes with the ABIT. I don't like DIMM Sockets on the BH6 at all (JUNK!). They are shallow and are very difficult to get the memory seated in. There are much better sockets avaiable. MOBO has 2 Tachometer fan connectors. 1 for CPU Fan. 1 for Exhaust Fan which is included with the case. I took the G200 out the machine that I am typing this on and was ready to see if it would POST. MOBO, CPU, Video, RAM, Mouse, Keyboard. Turn it on.... Nothing. Cpu Fans on, All Case fans are on, No Video and Beeps. Checked all connectors and for another half hour still no luck. Took out the Celeron and New Memory and swapped in a Working PII 300 and 128M PC66 Stick and Still nothing. Called Abit, Immediately was transfered to TS (very good). We went through what I have done and even removed the memory and tried a few things. Nothing, Dead. Seems I have a dead board because even with No memory or bad video card it will still emit some beeps according to TS. Abit advised me to send it back to my vendor. I sent Jon Email at Minotaur around 6:00 PM. Will talk to him tommorow. So I'm pretty much DOA at the moment. Since I won't get replacement parts till next week I am going to get Let my friend at work test my CPU and Memory over the weekend in his PC. He bought a combo from muskin several months ago. Hopefully they will work correctly and it will just be the mobo. I'll keep yall informed of what I discover. at least I'm still running. Glad I deciced to check the POST before I really started assembling or I would have two non functional computers :) Sean