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To: Cirruslvr who wrote (43175)	12/10/1998 10:37:00 PM
From: TGPTNDR	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572099

Thread - I'll be damned - Tonight I responded to Pauls attacks on the INTC thread while he was there. He answered once, then moved to the AMD thread. As soon as I chased him down he disappeared. Is he a coward or what? NAH - He'll be back to bug us some more later, or perhaps tomorrow! That dopey retroactive trader! tgptndr

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (43175)	12/10/1998 10:55:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572099

Man, this Intel pricing strategy is MARVELOUS! www.necx.com has pricing for the Celeron 366 at their website, although they don't have any in stock. Here is the pricing for the two different versions of the Celeron: necxdirect.necx.com CELERON(R) 366MHZ 128KB FAN/HSINK $170.95 CELERON(R) 366MHZ 128KB FAN/HSINK PPGA $182.95 The whole reason Intel came up with the PPGA version of the Celeron was to reduce costs. Well, looks like at this moment their plan isn't working as they would like it to. The PPGA version costs *7% MORE* than the single edge cartridge design version!!! I assume Intel hopes motherboards will offset the cost.

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (43175)	12/10/1998 11:20:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1572099

Cringe - Re: " Is Cascades the upgrade after Tanner? Other than a large amount of on-chip cache, what extra features will this have?" Yes - Cascades is a follow on to Tanner. It will feature faster speeds - 0.18 micron process - lower power, and LOWER LATENCIES on the L2 cache - since it will be on chip and HUGE - at least 1 MegaByte! Cascades should debut at 600 MHz - and reach 667 Mhz by early 2000. Re: " Coppermine is mobile chip (right?) made on .18 process and I assume it will have KNI. So is this basically a mobile Katami or will it have extra features?" Coppermine might contain circuitry to detect whether the CPU is powered up by an AC source power supply (line power) or battery power. It may run faster under AC power conditions (obviously converted to appropriate DC levels) and fall back to a lower speed under battery (straight DC) power - to conserve battery life. I would guess that Coppermine will also contain on-chip L2 cache - at least 512 KiloBytes. Paul