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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: uu who wrote (18269)	12/11/1998 2:05:00 AM
From: Borzou Daragahi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Addi, speaking of Bob Barf: Barr Spoke to White Supremacy Group By Thomas B. Edsall Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 11, 1998; Page A23 A spokesman for Rep. Robert L. Barr Jr. (R-Ga.) acknowledged yesterday that Barr was a keynote speaker earlier this year at a meeting of the Council of Conservative Citizens, an organization promoting views that interracial marriage amounts to white genocide and that Abraham Lincoln was elected by socialists and communists. Barr spoke at the organization's semiannual convention on June 6 in Charleston, S.C. His presence was cited by Harvard law professor Alan M. Dershowitz, who testified against the impeachment of President Clinton at a hearing of the House Judiciary Committee. Barr, the most outspoken proponent of impeachment in the House, serves on the committee. "Congressman Barr, who was fully aware of this organization's racist and antisemitic agenda, not only gave the keynote address to the CCC's national board, but even allowed himself to be photographed literally embracing one of their national directors," Dershowitz wrote Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry J. Hyde (R-Ill.) last week. In a letter to Hyde responding to Dershowitz, Barr declared that Dershowitz's "accusations are unfounded and deplorable." What a liar! Asked to comment on the views of the council, Brad Alexander, Barr's spokesman, said Barr is working full time on impeachment, and "he is not going to take time away from it to respond to groundless attacks by Professor Dershowitz." In the letter to Hyde, Barr counterattacked, accusing Dershowitz of "condoning the use of racism in court, most notably in the O.J. Simpson case," in which Dershowitz served as part of the defense team. The World Wide Web site of the Council of Conservative Citizens is dominated by material portraying the "white race" as under siege. A council columnist described only as "H. Millard" writes: "Take 10 bottles of milk to represent all humans on earth. Nine of them will be chocolate and only one white. Now mix all those bottles together and you have gotten rid of that troublesome bottle of white milk. There too is the way to get rid of the world of whites. Convince them to mix their few genes with the genes of the many. Genocide via the bedroom chamber is as long lasting as genocide via war." This only reenforces the public's notion, regardless of whether it's generally factual or not, that those who are pursuing impeachment have ties to the ugliest, most hateful elements of American society.

To: uu who wrote (18269)	12/11/1998 3:21:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 67261

Addi, you claim to be a Republican, but I'm sure K would say you're really a White House apologist or something. <vbg, sort of> That's what happens when you get into a "substantive debate" such as we have here. Do you see any way we can dig our way out of this mess? I'll repeat a question I've asked others, who do you like as a candidate in Y2K? George W. Bush? Do you think he can survive the moral reformation onslaught? Who else do you think the serious candidates are? Is Colin Powell any more likely to run than Bush, in the current environment? Pete Wilson maybe? I don't even know who's testing the waters these days, except my amusing home state governor, Tommy Thompson. Regardless of the moral reformation, a 12 year governor from a tax hell state, who wields a line item veto that allows him to write his own numbers into the state budget, isn't going anywhere as a national candidate. Cheers, Dan.

To: uu who wrote (18269)	12/11/1998 5:08:00 AM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

If you are a Republican, you should have heard Lowell Wiecker on Geraldo last night. Maybe they post transcripts....CNBC. You should read it. Anyway, I noticed the change in seats indeed. My statement stands. It's true. It's significant. Your charges against Republicans in congress are your perception. Your belief that possibly "all Republicans in congress are nothing but losers...with hatred for Clinton who would do whatever it takes to...." is ludricrous on it's faceIMHO And nevertheless you've engaged in no substantial discussion of the issues surrounding Clinton and the evidence that condemns him whatsoever. Not a word-it's plain. Sanity Check! Do you realize what Clinton actually did and if so, do you honestly think such a man should be a President of this country? I doubt you are aware of the facts involved here- and in fact I've heard nothing from any of his defenders here that shows they have any substantial understanding of the evidence- since they certainly never attempt to refute a bit of it. I DON'T like the Republican party MUCH more than I like the Democrats. Clintons guilt doesn't hinge on the messenger- it's on him! I think all possible witnesses have testified under oath as to the facts, and the man has no defense for elaborately causing an American Citizen to be knowingly and wrongly defamed, denied an honest day in court, and this due to his own perjury over his silly sexual proclivities which most all involved would have forgiven him for- if he'd just had an inch of guts and honesty. His actions against an American Citizen make him unfit to be President. To say this was a HIGH MISDEMEANOR is an understatement.