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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: uu who wrote (18345)	12/11/1998 12:47:00 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Didn't your mommy ever tell you the cover-up is always worse than the crime? Apparently, Clinton's mom didn't tell him either.

To: uu who wrote (18345)	12/11/1998 12:51:00 PM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 67261

Spend an hour. Do some reading. Get the facts. Then come back. You are a black hole of ignorance. Suggest you start here: house.gov

To: uu who wrote (18345)	12/11/1998 12:56:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Addi: Nice to see you here! How's LSI doing? Nice run-up to the 20's, huh? Started sliding back though, as I had thought (and expressed on the LSI thread). I agree with your argument. Impeachment is considered to be the civilized equivalent of assassination, according to Benjamin Franklin, and I don't believe that if a person lies about his private life, he deserves to be assassinated! But the frenzied Republican party, dominated by the right-wing religious nuts (referred to by Bob Barr as the "real" Americans!) want to do exactly that. Our only hope is that as America becomes more and more multi-cultural, the picture will change in favor of moderation, compromise and progressive attitudes.

To: uu who wrote (18345)	12/11/1998 1:02:00 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 67261

<<His actions against an American Citizen?!!! >> In a nutshell that's what started it. Lying to us is an abuse of the trust that underlies our social contract with him as the nations leader. All the other stuff came about as a result of the web of lies he tried to spin to cover his first mistake. Of course he is an American citizen, so are most of the other criminals behind bars for abuses of other American citizens and the system. I don't see your point here. If they are mistreated by somebody throwing rotten eggs at them, then the egg thrower should be punished also. That doesn't change their guilt any. As far as finding comparative republican politicians you don't respect, I don't see the point there either. That is a spin. I wont try to use all the people who've committed crimes, in all the world, for all times, put together, to justify the one I could commit today. That is the Charles Manson and Dipy "Helter Skelter" philosophy.

To: uu who wrote (18345)	12/11/1998 1:49:00 PM
From: Dan B.	Respond to of 67261

Calm down Addi, please! Clinton is a citizen! Clinton as a citizen perjured himself to protect himself(not a NOBLE motive by any stretch). If it were about the sexual acts involved and only between he and his wife and daughter and he confessed to them, it would take a pass. But in repeatedly committing perjury he has impugned the reputations of other American Citizens and denied at least one her proper day in court. If this is not so, would you please explain? If you do not believe this to be illegal behavior beneath a proper standard which qualifies one to be President would you please explain. I for one will not be seen as defending such abbhorrant and indeed anti-feminist legal actions by this President- and if own feelings weren't enough, I have women in my life who recognize "what a pig he is", just as I do. In short, I too would forgive his character flaws, his being a "pig", but the reality of the lengths he's gone to protect himself from his own flaws seals the day against him for me. For a Citizen who would call himself President to cause and continue lying throughout these now all too drawn out events- concerning his own perjury against another citizen- to remain President- would be a travesty.

To: uu who wrote (18345)	12/11/1998 3:33:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Addi, my personal view on the "Sanity Check" title is Susan Powter's "Stop the Insanity", but it looks like we're stuck with it. Hope you enjoy the substantive regurgitation ever popular here. Hyde's fellow papal knight Schippers seems to have picked up the style, with his "more evidence we can't present" line. All in defense of truth and justice, in the federal civil court arena, an area that Republicans are so respectful of in all other contexts. Like, the tobacco settlement or product liability. But here, truth and justice is a sacred trust, totally unlike the situation in the Iran-contra affair. All in how you look at it, I guess. I hope the Republicans get to keep flogging the sanctimony for another year, a good prelude to the next election season. Yes, impeaching Clinton will make all politicians honest, from here onward. Just like the adulterous papal knight and current chief prosecutor is honest now. Cheers, Dan.