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To: mozek who wrote (12528)	12/11/1998 6:43:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

mozek, Go back to where you belong: to the M$FT threads. Don't pollute this thread with your dim-witted pronouncements. SUNW owns Java. M$FT is a Java licensee. M$FT pays SUNW $17.5 million for the right to develop Java apps. M$FT must pass all compliance tests for Java certification. If they obey the rules & pass the tests, they can sell their products & make money on them. If they fail the tests, M$FT has to fix their code until it passes the tests. If M$FT violates SUNW's IP by attempting to change the language or any part of Java that destroys cross-platform compatibility, they'll get their butts kicked in court. Cut the sour-grapes, willya? M$FT licensed Java because they don't have the brains to innovate anything important all by themselves. Java is a better idea & M$FT knows they have to jump aboard the train before it leaves the station without them. By contrast, SUNW is an engineering company that innovates. Their products become universally acceptable because they have solid R&D behind them.

To: mozek who wrote (12528)	12/12/1998 11:48:00 AM
From: micromike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

If Sun really felt that way and had a single face, Java would be truly open source without shared code, restrictions or lawsuits when someone out-innovates. Maybe you can tell me what MS has innovated lately. Lets see they bought WebTV, they knock off Netscape, they are trying to knock off Java to fragment it,they are trying to knock of UNIX with 80% new code for the much hyped release of NT5. The only thing I can come up with is that they innovated the art of FUD, they are trying to innovated the word monopoly to mean you need 99% of the market for a monopoly and innovating the word predatory practices to mean that giving away free products is benefiting the consumer. The only problem is that now the DOJ is looking into these new innovations. That dam DOJ they are trying to prevent MS from innovating. I wonder if MS should purchase Websters dictionary so they can officially change those two words monopoly and predatory. JMHO Mike

To: mozek who wrote (12528)	12/14/1998 11:09:00 PM
From: micromike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Oracle, Sun team against Microsoft news.com Oracle 8i includes its own file system, which the company developed in an attempt to free itself from operating system technologies controlled by Microsoft. Ellison has also complained that Microsoft has not released the application programming interfaces (APIs) to underlying Windows NT technologies, such as the OS's file system. --- What's the company line on this one? This is a perfect example why the DOJ should break up MS. JMHO Mike