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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18670)	12/11/1998 11:48:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 67261

from Tomorrow's NY Times: Some outside the White House, including Democrats in Congress, have suggested that Clinton accept a stiff fine in addition to censure. One close adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the president likely would be cool to the notion and almost certainly would not accept a penalty exceeding the $300,000 fine levied against House Speaker Newt Gingrich in his ethics case. First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton is said to be balking at a tough fine. Other advisers say they believe Clinton would do what it takes to avoid impeachment. The president's legal team would closely scrutinize the language of any censure motion to determine whether it could be used against him if prosecutor Kenneth Starr were to charge Clinton with perjury after he leaves office. Emotions were raw at the White House from the beginning Friday. A draft of an apologetic presidential speech was leaked to MSNBC the night before, though Clinton had never seen it. It had the president saying that "reasonable people" could conclude his conduct "crossed the line" -- the kind of subtle allusion to presidential lies that some in Congress are clamoring for. Clinton exploded with anger over the leak when he showed up for work Friday. The night before, Clinton and advisers briefly debated the merits of making a public statement. Some had been arguing that lawmakers wanted another sign of contrition. Others said it might be a strategic error to give ground too soon, before the White House determines what it will take to prevent a critical handful of moderate Republicans from voting for impeachment. The president said he wanted to decide overnight whether to address the public and would work on the speech himself. "I'll take a crack at it," he said. He reported to work Friday with a draft of a speech but still undecided whether to give it. He promised a decision by 3 p.m. At the appointed hour, he told an aide he wanted more time. Less than half an hour later, he finally put out the word: Let's do it. Clinton left his dog, Buddy, in the Oval Office when he strode into the Rose Garden. So fixed was his solemn, survey-the-scene gaze as he approached the lectern that he bumped his right shoulder into one of the colonnade's thick white pillars. He said his piece, then turned away in silence as reporters shouted: "Mr. President, can a reasonable person conclude that you lied under oath, sir?" "Mr. President, if it goes before the Senate ... would you be willing to resign to save the country from this process?" Questions for another day.

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18670)	12/13/1998 5:45:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

So nice to hear from you, 247365. As they say “cleanliness is next to Godliness”, and this should give you a good idea about where you fit in the Grand Scheme of things. >Perhaps you could get the fire hose unit squad to help you with your filth problem. Or perhaps you might like to nullify your own filth.< I seriously doubt a fire hose unit could remedy my filth problem, a problem that consists entirely of filthy liberals who insist on supporting a flagrant, repeated liar and schemer as president of this country. This so called remedy of yours would amount to something akin to putting a drop of water on a tub of dung. But all this is quite premature, 247365. Before you analyze anyone's filth problem, you should first see if you still have a wife (that is if you ever HAD a wife). Then you should look into getting a job. After this, check out shopping around for a social life. Kindest regards