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To: hoffy who wrote (27013)12/12/1998 4:19:00 PM
From: bob  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 119973
 
hoffy,

I COULD NOT agree more!



To: hoffy who wrote (27013)12/12/1998 4:19:00 PM
From: Gregg Sterner  Respond to of 119973
 
You got that right..I'm about ready to start a thread titled "Republican for NOT re-electing Republicans.

Personally, I feel strongly about 2 observations:
1. Clinton fell into the trap 'cause he couldn't keep it in his pants.
2. This whole thing has been orchestrated by both political inside and outside people. It's been too pat and to smooth.

This whole impechmentment process has been based around a civil matter as compared to the 3 previous impechments that were based on felony cases.

They couldn't get enough on Clinton in a criminal case so they knew they could get him with his pants down. They knew from the beginning that he would lie about messing around. Any person does that has a lot to loose.



To: hoffy who wrote (27013)12/13/1998 8:32:00 AM
From: Lane Hall-Witt  Respond to of 119973
 
The republicans are doing what is right for them and not what is right for the country.

Ironically, the Republicans think they're doing what's right for them, but in fact are self-destructing with this. Just think, after purging Gingrich, they could have had a fresh start; but instead they're just digging themselves even deeper into this muck.

The Republicans are putting themselves in a position to take all the blame if anything -- and I mean anything -- goes wrong with the country over the next two years. If the economy goes south, it's traditional for the President to take the heat. But an economic downturn at this time will surely be blamed on the Republican Congress, which has handcuffed the President and rebuffed him repeatedly on policy initiatives.

Clinton has already begun appealing to the business community to get it to intervene on his behalf in the impeachment vote. Republicans have apparently become very angry about this (according to a NY Times article the other day), which makes me think that Clinton has been at least somewhat effective. I don't think it'll help him in the short run; it seems to me that the House will get him come hell or high water. But over time, when we have to try to "understand what went wrong" in an economic downturn, you can bet that some of these business allies will come out and say the Republicans ruined the party. Of course, the real story will be much more complicated than that. The perception game is what counts, though, and the President is going to win that going away.

If the 1998 election didn't teach the Republicans a lesson, I think the 2000 election will give them another chance to get their butts whupped. I've never seen Americans with such blatant disregard for the democratic process and for the will of the American people.



To: hoffy who wrote (27013)12/15/1998 1:19:00 AM
From: Gerald F Bunch  Respond to of 119973
 
YOUR A TURNCOAT