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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: James Strauss who wrote (9292)	12/13/1998 3:38:00 PM
From: Pat W.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

All the Democrats vote one way and all the Republicans vote another way... This means that the hearings meant nothing because each Congressperson voted strictly along party lines... This can't be considered fair and just... How can any of these representatives of the people say they voted strictly on the facts? Whatever we may think of Clinton's actions, the Judiciary hearings were strictly political... Hello Jim, Since the vote was along party lines, is it you conclusion that only the Republicans were being partisan, while the Democrats were being fair and reasonable? p.w.

To: James Strauss who wrote (9292)	12/13/1998 8:22:00 PM
From: Catfish	Respond to of 13994

The Neal Boortz Show -- News Talk 750 WSB -- Atlanta Thursday, December 10, 1998 SO --- HOW MANY WEEKS HAS IT BEEN? Has it been four or five weeks since Clinton caved into to another Saddam Hussein ploy? It doesn't really matter. Every clear-thinking person in the free world knew that it wouldn't be long before Hussein was once again telling the U.N. inspectors to pound sand. Well, it happened yesterday. Hussein's goons blocked inspectors from holding a surprise inspection at the Baghdad headquarters of the ruling Baath party. The Hussein goon demanded a written notice of just what they were looking for. Yeah, right. That works. So, Hussein is at it again .... and the entire world knows that Clinton was had. Again. CHARLES RUFF'S TESTIMONY I sat for some time yesterday afternoon listening to Clintonista Attorney Charles Ruff presenting his case to the Judiciary Committee. I jotted down a few statements from Ruff that I found particularly irritating: Ruff said that to commit an impeachable offense the president must have acted to subvert our system of government. He added that that did not happen. Nonsense. Of course it happened. The very essence of our system of government is the rule of law. Clinton clearly acted to subvert our rule of law when he lied under oath to win a civil lawsuit, and lied to a grand jury to avoid indictment. Ruff also said that impeachment reserved for only the most serious matters that threaten the very fabric or our government. Same response. The very fabric of our government is the laws and bind us together. That fabric is threatened when the man who takes an oath to uphold it, tears it to pieces instead. Clinton has left a stain on the fabric of our government that is far more serious than the presidue on Monica's dress. Then Ruff says that impeachment cannot arise out of personal conduct. Without arguing that point, let's point out that perjury is not personal conduct. Ruff said that perjury about an official act might be abuse of office, but not perjury in a personal setting. Perjury before a federal judge, and perjury before a federal criminal grand jury is not perjury in a personal setting. Amazingly, Ruff said that the true test of impeachment must be whether or not the offense for which the president is being impeached would lead to his inability to continue to lead the nation. Now where in our Constitution does it say that? Does this mean that a president could murder someone and not be impeached? Would killing someone necessarily impede his ability to lead the nation? Also, can a person who has lost the trust of the American people still lead? ABOUT THAT DEFINITION OF SEX Ruff went into great detail about the adversarial process. He described how questions must be carefully phrased in order to get the truth. It seems to me if a person swears to tell the "whole truth" that is what they should do. Anyway, Ruff made repeated references to the definition of sex that was used in the Jones lawsuit. He tried to give the impression that this definition of sex was imposed on the parties by the judge. This is not so. The fact is that Clinton and his lawyers sat down and negotiated that definition of sex before he started answering questions about Monica Lewinsky. When Clinton and his lawyer first walked into that deposition they were handed a definition of sexual relations that would have clearly included oral sex; whether you were giving it or getting it. Clinton's lawyer objected to that definition and demanded that the provision that would encompass oral sex be deleted. The judge and Jones' attorneys agreed. So, in short, Clinton created a definition that would give him some wiggle room when he lied. Now we have the amazing spectacle of Clinton's team saying that the dictionary definitions of sex don't include oral sex. Try telling that to your wife! ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT AND CENSURE RESOLUTION Click here to read the full text of the Articles of Impeachment. Click here to read the text of the Democrats Censure Resolution YOU WANT DIVERSITY? The best diversity comes from individualism. You can have no more diverse a group of people than a group of true individuals. SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM Clinton and some congressional leaders had a meeting yesterday on the issue of Social Security reform. At that meeting Clinton evidently voiced some limited support for the idea using stock market investments to enhance the return on Social Security accounts. One big question. Who does the investing? Do we, as free individuals, get to make our own investment decisions? Or does the government do it for us? Clinton isn't sure on this one. Come on, folks. He stalling. He knows damn well what his position is and will be. He is going to insist on a plan whereby the government makes those investments in the stock market, not the individual wage earners. Think about it! Just think about the billions of dollars are there going to be to invest. You think a socialist like Clinton isn't going to jump at the chance to control those investments? Imagine how much more powerful this makes the federal government ... with all that money to hang over corporate heads. Imagine the restrictions and requirements that the government will put on corporations who want their stock to be in the pool. You want the Social Security Administration to invest in your stock? Well, how many black employees do you have? How many black managers? You want the Social Security Administration to invest in your stock? Are you unionized? You want the Social Security Administration to invest in your stock? Do you pay your workers for family leave? You want the Social Security Administration to invest in your stock? Do you provide your workers with free health care? You get the picture, folks. When Clinton said "The era of big government is over" the applause drowned out the next line. it was .... "The era of huge government has arrived." BUT IS IT A HATE CRIME? A 20 year-old black man hit a 16 year-old white high school student in the head in Orlando on Wednesday. The 16 year-old will be buried Friday. The attacker has been charged with second-degree murder. Reverse the races and what do you want to bet that someone would be yelling "hate crime!" LISTENER E-MAIL I saw this headline on a newspaper the other morning "Clinton Mounts Defense Team!" I wish that I had bought a copy. I am so sick of hearing about how our government is going to provide "the tools we need" in order to succeed. How's this for a rebuttal: The only "tool" needed to guarantee the security and prosperity of the people is Individual Freedom. The stain that Clinton left on Monica's dress is inconsequential compared to the stain he has left on the fabric of our society. Last night, on "Geraldo", Ann Coulter was asked by Geraldo since we live in a "democracy" and the American people do not want impeachment, why are the Republicans going forward? She did not even question the "democracy" part of his question. Neal, how can someone of her education allow that comment to go by unchallenged. Keep up the good work. During the President's "defense" yesterday, at least one of his defenders stated that Clinton truly believed that he was not lying. Isn't this one of the characteristics of a pathological liar, the inability to distinguish between the truth, or believing that whatever he says is true? And if this is so, wouldn't this then be defined by the liberal camp as a "disability" for which he should be accommodated rather than punished? I'd like your thoughts on this. boortz.com

To: James Strauss who wrote (9292)	12/13/1998 8:43:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." (Hillary Clinton, 1993) "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..." (President Bill Clinton, USA Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A) "I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president." Hillary Clinton commenting on the release of subpoenaed documents I am here because I want to redefine the meaning of citizenship in America... If you're asked in school 'What does it mean to be a good citizen?' I want the answer to be, 'Well, to be a good citizen, you have to obey the law, you've got to go to work or be in school, you've got to pay your taxes and --- oh, yes, you have to serve ..... (Bill Clinton at Volunteerism Summit) In his April 5 radio address outlining the goals of the summit, the President endorsed compulsory volunteerism -- and even called for extending it to middle schools. In other words, the man who so famously avoided the dangerous duty of fighting in Vietnam as a young man now proposes drafting a new generation of young people to perform a different set of difficult tasks. (Editorial, New York Post, April 27, 1997) "All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This is not good at all." (Vladimir Lenin, as quoted in "Not by Politics Alone.) There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual; between the State which demands and the individual who attempts to evade such demands. Because the individual, left to himself, unless he be a saint or hero, always refuses to pay taxes, obey laws, or go to war. (Benito Mussolini) Fascist ethics begin ... with the acknowledgment that it is not the individual who confers a meaning upon society, but it is, instead, the existence of a human society which determines the human character of the individual. According to Fascism, a true, a great spiritual life cannot take place unless the State has risen to a position of pre-eminence in the world of man. The curtailment of liberty thus becomes justified at once, and this need of rising the State to its rightful position. (Mario Palmieri, "The Philosophy of Fascism" 1936) "Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." (Nikita Khrushchev , February 25, 1956 20th Congress of the Communist Party) "It is thus necessary that the individual should come to realize that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole ... that above all the unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual. .... This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation of the community, is really the first premise for every truly human culture .... we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow man." (Adolph Hitler, 1933) boortz.com