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To: Ken Pomaranski who wrote (5110)	12/13/1998 11:20:00 PM
From: Naggrachi	Respond to of 10072

<<Oh well.. I guess I'm just stupid or something.. I've been really wrong on this stock so far ;).<< Stupit is what stupit saiz. Zead

To: Ken Pomaranski who wrote (5110)	12/14/1998 12:03:00 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10072

>>Anyway, I was surfing today and happened to see the same old garbage being posted on this thread. I just don't see why you guys cannot see this. The problem with the ZIP is that it does NOT support mainstream media. This has been and will continue to be the downfall. Floppies, CD-ROM, DVD, and even mini-disk are the mainstream media. ZIP is still a toy, with a limited life. Without a mass market, it is doomed to low tie ratios.. period!!!<< Ken - Same old garbage being posted on this thread? In the more than two years that you have been posting about what's wrong with Zip and why it is doomed, something on the order of 15 million units have been sold, for a total, currently, of right around 20 million. You said Zip sales would peak the fourth quarter of 1997. Yet unit sales have continued to increase. In addition to 20 million Zip drives, apparently sold to people who need more toys, Iomega has sold more than 100 million Zip disks, for a tie ratio in excess of five. I think that tie ratio is just fine, especially considering that it has been generated with almost a complete absence of disk pricing actions by Iomega. As disk prices are just now beginning to come down, I believe tie ratios will go up. Witness Senthil's purchase of two 10 packs which he himself says he doesn't need right now, but he just couldn't pass up the deal. I think there's a lot of elasticity of demand there. What I'm saying is that your arguments appear to have been contradicted by the marketplace. Why do you think that your repetition of them is somehow different from the rest of this thread? I'm not denying that the rest of the arguments haven't changed much either, except that lately you don't find as many people saying SyQuest will eat Iomega's lunch. (ha!) By the way, as for making money as a result of participating in these threads, I think you have to learn how to read them. I've learned that one needs to be more of a Scully than a Mulder. (Maybe that's why I currently have no position in IOM but continue to watch it.) But if it wasn't fun, I wouldn't be around. Always a pleasure to see you around, Ken. - Allen

To: Ken Pomaranski who wrote (5110)	12/14/1998 9:36:00 AM
From: Cameron Dorey	Respond to of 10072

Hello, Ken, Well, I'm glad to see that you aren't spewing forth the "same old garbage." Let's see, if I remember right, it's "Iomega won't ever make another penny" or something to that effect. Now it's "it is doomed to low tie ratios.. period!" Well, that may be true, but if it makes money because more Zips are being put in boxes every month, that's okay with me. I'd hate to see you wasting your time on this thread, I'm glad you have found something else better to do. Ta, ta. Cameron "If at first you don't succeed, transform your data set."

To: Ken Pomaranski who wrote (5110)	12/14/1998 9:51:00 AM
From: David Colvin	Respond to of 10072

Been away for awhile... Gosh, I've really missed you with your wonderful, even-handed, objective analysis of Iomega. Dave

To: Ken Pomaranski who wrote (5110)	12/15/1998 4:28:00 PM
From: D.J.Smyth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10072

uh Rocky, excuse me, I mean Ken. I didn't know you knew Joe Blow so well! <<About CLIK!: I just do not see Joe Blow buying this device. What is the marketing plan to get people to buy this device? What is the value proposition? Why is it a 'have to have'?? How can it rise above a 'niche?' can it near the ZIP in popularity? If ZIP was a grand slam, how often does two get hit in a game? Digital cams? HA! The volume is at the low end, disposable market. Try to get Joe Blow buying more than one of these...>>