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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (19271)	12/14/1998 12:53:00 PM
From: Yoav Chudnoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

I know Bob Barr wdid not pre judge Clinton ---- from the Oakland County Republican Web Site. But as mentioned before concerning getting Gingrich into the White House (now Livingston) is paragraph three of the article.... impeach both Clinton and Gore... is this treason or what??? The Washington Times Published in Washington, D.C. March 14 - 16, 1997 Barr seeks impeachment inquiry on fund raising ________________________________________________________________ By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES _______________________________________________________________ The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee has been asked to begin an impeachment inquiry of President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore amid accusations that a growing campaign-finance scandal has compromised national-security interests and corrupted the country's foreign-policy decisions. Rep. Bob Barr, Georgia Republican, made the request this week in a three-page letter to Chairman Henry J. Hyde, challenging -- among other things -- Mr. Clinton's use of the White House to "amass his political campaign war chest" and Mr. Gore's ties to questionable fund raising "on federal property and with federal resources." "The cumulative effect of such a series of systemic abuses of the political process ... points precisely toward theories of impeachment law invoked by this committee nearly 25 years ago in the matter of President Nixon," Mr. Barr said. "Those same theories were then, as they must be now, based on clear historical precedent, considered explicitly by our Founding Fathers, that alone among remedies to correct abuses of power or improper conduct by high public officials, stands impeachment," he said. Several House members have informally contacted Mr. Barr and Mr. Hyde about a possible impeachment inquiry, and some of them have reviewed a 1974 Watergate report to determine if impeachment articles can be drawn up against Mr. Clinton and Mr. Gore, according to congressional sources. That report included a review of Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, which says "treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors" are grounds for impeachment. It concluded that high crimes and misdemeanors could include efforts to use the White House for improper purposes or personal gain. Mr. Barr, saying that emerging campaign-related scandals could no longer be ignored by the committee, called on Mr. Hyde to begin a preliminary impeachment inquiry as soon as possible. Sam Stratman, spokesman for Mr. Hyde, confirmed Thursday that the chairman had received the letter and had begun a review of it. He said the Illinois Republican would respond to Mr. Barr's request in due course. White House special counsel Lanny Davis declined comment. Mr. Barr, a former federal prosecutor, said in a Thursday interview that he made the decision to seek an impeachment inquiry after it became apparent the "two top leaders of our country could not assure the people" they had not engaged in criminal conduct in fund-raising efforts at the White House. "Clearly, the time is right to begin the process now," he said. On March 3, Mr. Gore said he solicited money for the Clinton-Gore campaign last year from the White House, but he denied it was illegal -- although a 1995 memo sent to him and Mr. Clinton by White House Counsel Abner J. Mikva said fund-raising activities of any kind were prohibited in government buildings and that "no fund-raising phone calls or mail may emanate from the White House or any other federal building." On March 8, Mr. Clinton told reporters he couldn't recall if he made similar phone calls for campaign cash from the White House. Mr. Barr already has taken the first step to an informal impeachment inquiry. Last week, he asked the chief counsel to the Watergate committee in the Nixon impeachment inquiry to draw up possible articles of impeachment. Jerome M. Zeifman, the Democrats' chief counsel on the House Judiciary Committee during the 1974 Nixon impeachment probe, was asked to begin a preliminary inquiry and to prepare articles listing possible crimes committed by the president and the vice president. Mr. Zeifman, reached at his Connecticut law office, refused to comment on questions of whether his services had been requested by Mr. Barr or the committee, but -- when pressed -- he would not deny that he was involved. "Throughout my entire legal career, I was trained that any member of Congress -- Democrat or Republican -- was free to consult with me on any matter, and that I was to keep those consultations confidential," he said. "I am outraged that someone would give you that information." Mr. Barr, also a member of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee now conducting a separate probe into campaign-finance irregularities involving Mr. Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, said the "web of Clinton campaign-related scandal" had grown to such "complexity and proportion," that the appointment of an independent counsel to look into the matter was not "a desirable alternative." "The independent counsel statute cannot be viewed as a permissible or desirable alternative to the constitutionally mandated process of addressing issues properly reserved for impeachment inquiry," he said. "To treat that law in such a manner would undermine our own constitutional obligations." Impeachment proceedings against the president or vice president require an investigation by the Judiciary Committee and debate by the full House in order to bring an indictment, and then a trial in the Senate, where a two-thirds vote to convict is necessary. Mr. Zeifman, whose assistants in the Nixon impeachment inquiry included lawyers Hillary Rodham Clinton and former White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, has become a vocal administration critic. He said in a November interview with The Washington Times that the administration's campaign-finance scandal was worse than Watergate "because the Democrats in my party are marching in lock step in support of a corrupt president." He said Mr. Clinton had "reactivated and exacerbated the cancer that became systemic in Watergate with respect to campaign financing."

To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (19271)	12/14/1998 1:22:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 67261

Gerard, on this issue, we have to deal with the conflicting advice of moral and political hygienist Rev. Pilch and the fearlessly sarcastic Les, as in www2.techstocks.com , "Christ was a socialist". Les's advice conflicts somewhat with the classic Vietnam-era "Kill a commie for Christ", I'm sure the Rev. Pilch would agree with that last one. Good luck on this particular dialog, you may find it less than pleasant. The local Christian community seems to be a bit touchy about the correct "inerrant" interpretation of the Bible and other matters of faith. Leviticus rules, and all that. If you can profess the right politics, though, you might escape the wrath of the local charitable Christian crowd. Cheers, Dan.