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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: j g cordes who wrote (9346)	12/14/1998 8:52:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

The Neal Boortz Show -- News Talk 750 WSB -- Atlanta Monday, December 14, 1998 CLINTON'S RESPECT FOR THE LAW AND OUR CONSTITUTION His lies under oath are not Clinton's first (nor will they be the last) examples of his lack of respect for our rule of law and our Constitution. Try this quote from Bill Clinton: "I have done my best to work with the United States Senate in an entirely constitutional way. But we had to get somebody into the Civil Rights Division." This is Clinton saying he "tried" to work within the framework of the Constitution .... BUT? Click Here to read George Will's Column on Clinton and Bill Lann Lee. When you're finished, be sure to get today's Wall Street Journal and read the opinion piece by Roger Clegg. TROUBLES WITH CLIENTS If you can find this past weekend's issue of USA Today, pull it out and read the letters to the editor. There's one letter there you should read if you believe that those nasty, evil Republicans should "leave or president alone." A lawyer in San Francisco wrote that she was starting to have a bit of a problem with some of her clients. It seems that they aren't particularly anxious to tell the truth when their deposition is taken or when they testify at trial. Seriously! This lawyer is having to work hard to convince her clients that the law actually requires them to tell the truth when they testify! They are protesting that they should be able to get away with little lies because the president did. And so it starts --- another step in the deterioration of the rule of law. SOMETHING TO TRULY LOOK FORWARD TO When Bill Clinton leaves office will he face criminal perjury charges? People close to Kenneth Starr's investigation say that the independent prosecutor has not ruled this out. Some suspect that sealed indictments are already in hand. Click Here to read the story in today's Washington Times! OBSESSED? I CERTAINTLY HOPE SO Dick Gephardt is beside himself. He is none too pleased that the House may acually vote to impeach Bill Clinton. He says that the Republicans are obsessed with the idea of impeaching Bill Clinton and removing him from office. There is nothing wrong with being obsessed with preserving our rule of law. There is nothing wrong with being obsessed about protecting our Constitution. You want to talk about obsessive behavior? How about jeopardizing your presidency to get oral sex in the White House from an intern barely older than your daughter? boortz.com

To: j g cordes who wrote (9346)	12/14/1998 8:55:00 PM
From: Catfish	Respond to of 13994

Back to Bill Lann Lee By George F. Will Sunday, December 13, 1998; Page C07 "I have done my best to work with the United States Senate in an entirely constitutional way. But we had to get somebody into the Civil Rights Division." -- President Clinton, Dec. 15, 1997 A year has passed since President Clinton accompanied his appointment of Bill Lann Lee as assistant attorney general for civil rights -- as "acting" assistant attorney general in perpetuity -- with that breezy acknowledgment: The appointment was not "entirely constitutional." This year the nation has become used to the mincing language by which Clinton describes his lawlessness. However, it is worth remembering that even last December there was nothing memorable about that day. There was no indignation about Clinton's offhand admission that he considers respect for the law, including the Constitution and his oath of office, as merely optional. There was virtual silence from the Senate, silence that, 12 months later, has special pertinence. The Senate, which soon may be a jury judging Clinton's illegalities, was -- is -- fully complicit in the lawlessness of the Lee appointment. Indeed, the Senate is the most culpable party. The Framers counted on the constitutional order being preserved not just, or even primarily, or perhaps even significantly, by the virtue of the political class. Rather, the Framers counted on countervailing rivalries and jealousies within that class. They assumed the system of separation of powers would be preserved by each institution's prickly vigilance in defense of its prerogatives. Which is why Justice Joseph Story said "no serious abuse of power can take place without the cooperation of two coordinate branches of the government." Instead, in a disregard of law more lastingly significant than Clinton's criminality, the Senate acquiesced like so many sheep -- well, sheep with a capacity to stamp their little hooves and pout -- in the erasure of a power central to the constitutional system of checks and balances, its power to advise and consent to presidential appointees. On July 21, 1997, Clinton submitted Lee's nomination to the Senate. Lee's expansive interpretations of civil rights laws were unacceptable to the Judiciary Committee. On Nov. 13, 1997, the Senate adjourned without the committee having voted on the nomination. Lee's supporters had blocked a vote to avoid a formal nonrecommendation to the full Senate. Clinton could then have given Lee a recess appointment, but it would have expired at the end of the next congressional session. Instead, in a series of maneuvers that were as nimble as they were dishonest -- does this remind you of Clinton's grand jury testimony? -- Clinton placed Lee in office. He did so despite the fact that the Vacancies Act, the only law that empowers presidents to appoint temporary attorneys general, prohibits Lee from serving even a single day. For a lucid explanation of this murky, tawdry transaction, see Steven J. Duffield and James C. Ho, "The Illegal Appointment of Bill Lann Lee," in the Texas Review of Law & Politics. But regarding the basic fact of its anti-constitutional nature, see Clinton's comment above. In 1989 President Bush nominated William Lucas, a black conservative, to the position Lee now occupies. When the nomination died in the Democratic-controlled committee, Bush considered a recess appointment, but decided to respect the Senate's constitutional role. West Virginia's Sen. Robert Byrd, only the third senator ever elected to seven six-year terms, presents himself as Horatius at the bridge, defending Senate prerogatives. Displeased by the Lee episode, he has helped tighten the Vacancies Act. But when Byrd thought President Reagan was using recess appointments to vitiate the Senate's advise-and-consent powers, Byrd was more forceful: He blocked many nominations and promotions until Reagan promised to sin no more. The Senate's refusal to insist upon its rights regarding Lee is just one more reason for rank-and-file Republicans to wonder why they are Republicans, and why they should care deeply about keeping the Senate Republican. It also is a reason for all Americans to recognize the seamlessness of recent events. Last Dec. 15 was a busy day for Clinton, who, when not "entirely" respecting the Constitution, was receiving from Paula Jones's lawyers a request for documents "related to communications between the President and Monica Lewinsky." This was the first discovery request to mention Lewinsky's name. Sixteen days before this low, dishonest year dawned, Clinton, in the Lee case, cheekily announced his contempt for law. This was before his glandular life reduced him to exercising that contempt in defense of his endless adolescence. Those who say his sex-related perjuries are "private" matters should consider: His low crimes of the last year flow from the same character displayed in his public behavior regarding Lee. © Copyright 1998 The Washington Post Company search.washingtonpost.com

To: j g cordes who wrote (9346)	12/14/1998 9:12:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

j g cordes, This is your Democratic Socialist party. Does this make you proud??? You can click on the links, and check them out for yourself. This is copied from the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) website. Notice that they call themselves progressives. Also, notice the congressional membership. dsausa.org The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International (also in Francais and Espanol). DSA's members are building progressive movements for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in American communities and politics. At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end. We are activists committed not only to extending political democracy but to demanding democratic empowerment in the economy, in gender relations, and in culture. Democracy is not simply one of our political values but our means of restructuring society. Our vision is of a society in which people have a real voice in the choices and relationships that affect the entirety of our lives. We call this vision democratic socialism - a vision of a more free, democratic and humane society. In this web site you can find out about DSA, its politics, structure and program. DSA's political perspective is called Where We Stand. It says, in part, We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources,meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships. To forge a new American politics DSA has launched the Campaign for Economic Justice. The Campaign for Economic Justice has three central tenets: economic justice and security require first, that corporations and the wealthy pay their fair share, and second, that every American deserves a living wage and benefits for the work s/he does; all Americans - men and women of all races, ages, sexual orientations and beliefs - must receive just and adequate rewards for their work; Americans must work with others around the world to ensure that everyone receives a living wage and to guarantee that corporations do not exploit people or the planet. We invite you to support the campaign by adding your name to the list of signers of the Pledge for Economic Justice. In conjunction with the Campaign DSA is working with the Congressional Progressive Caucus, a network of more than 50 progressive members of the US House of Representatives. DSA has a Youth Section. Made up of students from colleges and high schools and young people in the work force, the Youth Section works on economic justice and democracy and prison justice projects. It is a member of the Interantional Union of Socialist Youth, an affiliate of the Socialist International. The Youth Section meets several times during the year. More information is available from the Youth Section staff person Kevin Pranis. To advance the cause of socialism, DSA has established the Center for Democratic Values. The Center for Democratic Values is a network of intellectuals committed to bringing progressive ideas on society, the economy, and government into mainstream discussions. CDV produces letters to the editor, op-eds, pamphlets, and books. This web site also includes an extensive set of resources, including bibliographies, pamphlets and links to information on socialism and US politics in general. We have also added a site index to help you find your way to the information you want. Please join DSA as we work to help build a better and more just world for all. dsausa.org Executive Commitee Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL), Chair 2202 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4115, Fax: 202-225-6790 bsanders@hr.house.gov Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04), Co-Chair 124 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-1605, Fax: 202-226-0691 Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04), Co-Chair 2134 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6416, Fax: 202-225-0373 pdefazio@hr.house.gov Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26), Co-Chair 2431 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6335, Fax: 202-226-0774 hinchey@mail.house.gov Rep Major Owens (NY-11), Co-Chair 2305 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6231, Fax: 202-226-0112 Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12) 1221 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2361, Fax: 202-226-0327 Rep Lane Evans (IL-17) 2335 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5905, Fax: 202-225-5396 Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35) 2344 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2201, Fax: 202-225-7854 Staff Coordinator Bill Goold 202-225-4115 213 Cannon H.O.B. Washington D.C. 20515 dsausa.org other members: Rep Earl Hilliard (AL-07) 1314 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2665, Fax: 202-226-0772 Rep Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL) 2422 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8577, Fax: 202-225-8757 Rep Ed Pastor (AZ-02) 2465 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4065, Fax: 202-225-1655 edpastor@mail.house.gov aspin.asu.edu Rep Lynn C Woolsey (CA-06) 439 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0529 Phone: 202-225-5161, Fax: 202-225-5163woolsey@mail.house.gov house.gov Rep George Miller (CA-07) 2205 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2095, Fax: 202-225-5609 gmiller@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep Nancy Pelosi (CA-08) 2457 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4965, Fax: 202-225-8259 sfnancy@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep Fortney "Pete" Stark (CA-13) 239 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5065, Fax: 202-226-3805 petemail@hr.house.gov Rep Henry A. Waxman (CA-29) 2204 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3976, Fax: 202-225-4099 house.gov Rep Xavier Becerra (CA-30) 1119 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0530 Phone: 202-225-6235, Fax: 202-225-2202 Rep Julian C. Dixon (CA-32) 2252 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0532 Phone: 202-225-7084, Fax: 202-225-4091 Rep Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34) 2269 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0534 Phone: 202-225-5256, Fax: 202-225-9711 arcoiris@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35) 2344 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2201, Fax: 202-225-7854 Rep George E. Brown (CA-42) 2300 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6161, Fax: 202-225-8671 talk2geb@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep Bob Filner (CA-50) 330 Cannon House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3461, Fax: 202-226-4169 Rep Diane DeGette (CO-01) 1404 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4431, Fax: 202-225-5657 Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL) 1424 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8050, Fax: 202-225-3002 house.gov Rep Corrine Brown (FL-03) 1610 Longworth House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 225-0123, Fax: 202-225-2256 Rep Carrie P. Meek (FL-17) 401 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0917 Phone: 202-225-4506, Fax: 202-226-0777 house.gov Rep Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23) 1039 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-1313, Fax: 202-226-0690 hastings@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04) 124 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-1605, Fax: 202-226-0691 house.gov Rep John Lewis (GA-05) 229 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-1005 Phone: 202-225-3801, Fax: 202-225-0351 Rep Neil Abercrombie (HI-01) 1233 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2726, Fax: 202-225-4580 neil@abercrombie.house.gov house.gov Rep Patsy Mink (HI-02) 2135 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0917 Phone: 202-225-4906, Fax: 202-225-4987 Rep Jesse Jackson (IL-02) 313 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-0773, Fax: 202-225-0899 Rep Luis Gutierrez (IL-04) 408 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8203, Fax: 202-225-7810 luisg@mail.house.gov Rep Danny Davis (IL-07) 1218 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5006, Fax: 202-225-5641 Rep Lane Evans (IL-17) 2335 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5905, Fax: 202-225-5396 Rep Julia Carson (IN-10) 1541 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4011, Fax: 202-226-4093 jcarson@indy.net Rep John Olver (MA-01) 1027 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5335, Fax: 202-226-1224 olver@mail.house.gov Rep Jim McGovern (MA-03) 512 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5759, Fax: 202-225-6101 james.mcgovern@mail.house.gov Rep Barney Frank (MA-04) 2210 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5931, Fax: 202-225-0182 house.gov Rep John Tierney (MA-06) 120 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8020, Fax: 202-225-5915 Rep David Bonior (MI-10) 2207 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2106, Fax: 202-226-1169 Rep Lynn N. Rivers (MI-13) 1724 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6261, Fax: 202-225-3404 lrivers@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep John Conyers (MI-14) 2426 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5126, Fax: 202-225-0072 jconyers@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02) 1408 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5876, Fax: 202-225-5898 ms2nd@hr.house.gov house.gov Rep Melvin L. 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