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To: Krowbar who wrote (27020)	12/16/1998 10:13:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Del, not all conservatives are members of the Religious Right. It is true that in Virginia (where I live) the Religious Right are very active in the Republican Party, but the present Governor (Gilmore) and the last one (George Allen), although they have the support of the Religious Right, were not themselves Religious Right. Unless you define Religious Right as anyone who opposes abortion. Abortion is the issue that motivates the Religious Right to participate in politics, and to support the Republican party. I truly believe that if the Democrat Party tried to ban abortion, the Religious Right would, en masse, switch their voter registration to Democrat.

To: Krowbar who wrote (27020)	12/19/1998 9:05:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

<There is a big difference between not liking Clinton, and forcing him from office, against the will of the majority of Americans. It is obvious that it is the far right Christians who are behind this. > Blue is right, Del. There are lots more American besides the Christian far right who don't like Clinton. Me, for example, a usually very liberal person. In San Francisco this week there were lots of protests, and letters to the editor, by extremely liberal Democrats who are also against bombing Iraq, and believe that killing children to try to save your sorry ass politically IS an impeachable crime, even if being a moral slime bucket is not. There seems to be a big misunderstanding about the "will of the majority of Americans." This is one of the arguments of Clinton's supporters, but really America is a republic, not a true democracy. We elect representatives, who then should vote according to conscience. A poll I read last week showed that 34% of Americans have not read one newspaper article about the issues here. We have an extremely uninformed publiic which has pretty much lost interest in politics. They are busy doing their Christmas shopping, and are vaguely aware of the impeachment drama. My own opinion is that they are mostly pretty stupid, and I would not want Congress to operate solely upon reading the weekly polls to see what the collective whim of the moment might be. It is actually not just the religious right, but also the elite who watch "talking head" programs, and the press as well, who support the removal of the president in larger numbers than the general public. I believe this is because the elite and the press understand the issues better, can comprehend complex legal arguments, and realize that this is not about sex but is about a very deliberate attempt on Bill Clinton's part to deprive Paula Jones of legal redress in her law suit. For example, Clinton himself was responsible for much of our sexual harassment law. Sexual predators tend to repeat their behavior over and over again (there are allegations against Clinton by several women). That is why asking about previous sexual conduct is appropriate in trying sexual harassment cases. If the accused lies under oath, while the uninformed American public might consider this "lying about sex" which they have been brainwashed by the President's spinners to believe is okay, logically all sexual harassment law would be wiped off the books. Is this what you want? It particularly disturbs me to see the hoops of illogic the feminists are jumping through to support this guy. Did you see "60 Minutes" last Sunday, the segment about Clinton and his pollster and marketing focus groups where they discovered that the general populace will continue to support him if they believe that this is all about "private" sexual behavior? It was really gross. It would be really nice to have an informed, well-read populace instead of the one America has. While the religious right certainly does not like Clinton, there are really lots of reasons for anyone who digs a little and thinks independently to not like him, either.