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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: mrknowitall who wrote (20382)	12/16/1998 1:42:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 67261

>>Zoltan - even a Bill Clinton or a mad-dog like Carville wouldn't make those kinds of statements in anything but jest in private, and the men and women directly involved in the administration wouldn't engage someone to participate in something as imbecilic as promoting physical violence. Well, Car-evil went on Larry King and said this was war and that he would kneecap Ken Starr. >>Just goes to show you that it doesn't take a genius to be a public figure. Baldwin wanted to run for Congress from LI. I think his political career is over before it began. He is a consummate idiot. A tape of his mindless rants is all anyone would need.

To: mrknowitall who wrote (20382)	12/16/1998 1:49:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 67261

Just goes to show you that it doesn't take a genius to be a public figure. DeLays background is the most troubling to me. Youd have to be stupid to become an adult as a pest control worker in podunck somewhere. Im not comforable with his role in these proceedings. If he were some junior guy, then ok but his background is not appropriate for a leader.

To: mrknowitall who wrote (20382)	12/16/1998 2:35:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 67261

>>the men and women directly involved in the administration wouldn't engage someone to participate in something as imbecilic as promoting physical violence. I guess they just use their minions to threaten it: Investigators Backed off Willey By Larry Margasak Associated Press Writer Wednesday, December 16, 1998; 3:37 a.m. EST WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republican House investigators wanted to call presidential accuser Kathleen Willey to testify at impeachment hearings about possible witness intimidation, but the idea was dropped after prosecutors objected, congressional officials say. Mrs. Willey and her lawyer had told congressional investigators she endured several threatening encounters, including finding an animal skull on her porch the day after she gave testimony in the Paula Jones case, according to committee officials and other sources familiar with her testimony. The chief Republican investigator on the House Judiciary Committee, David Schippers, personally interviewed Mrs. Willey, according to some of the sources, who spoke Tuesday only on condition of anonymity. The investigators also learned that Clinton lawyer Robert Bennett had carried a message from a federal judge to Mrs. Willey's attorney saying that she should either testify in the Jones case or assert her privilege against self-incrimination. Committee officials said their plans were scrapped after Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's office raised concerns that calling Mrs. Willey could jeopardize his grand jury investigation of witness tampering in the Jones case. Prosecutors were also concerned that the president's lawyers could gain access to investigative materials submitted by the prosecutor. If Mrs. Willey had testified, Clinton's lawyers would have been granted access to evidence as part of their right to cross-examine impeachment witnesses. Prosecutors learned of congressional investigators' interest in Mrs. Willey's becoming a witness through one of her lawyers, officials said. Starr spokesman Charles Bakaly had no comment. Mrs. Willey, a former White House volunteer, alleges Clinton made an unwanted sexual advance during a 1993 Oval Office encounter. The president denies the allegation, which became an issue in the Jones case. Congressional investigators and prosecutors have both been investigating whether several threatening incidents that occurred at Mrs. Willey's house after her story became public were part of an effort to intimidate her. Presidential supporters deny any such effort. Schippers met with Mrs. Willey and her attorney, Daniel Gecker, for several hours several weeks ago -- not to discuss her allegations of a sexual advance but rather her concerns she may have been intimidated, officials said. Gecker also related to investigators that at one point while his client was resisting giving testimony in the Jones case, Bennett carried a message from a federal judge that Mrs. Willey should not delay further and should either testify or invoke her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, the sources said. Gecker told that investigators that he did not believe Bennett, Clinton's lead attorney in the case, was trying to intimidate Mrs. Willey and that he was simply relaying the sentiments of the judge who was overseeing the dispute, the sources said. Bennett declined comment Tuesday. Former U.S. District Judge Robert Merhige Jr., now retired, said he had entered an order instructing Mrs. Willey to testify in the Jones case, and added that he wanted Gecker either to ''get her in here or, if she had a privilege, she ought to take it.'' But he denied suggesting that Mrs. Willey assert her Fifth Amendment rights. ''I can unequivocally say I never suggested to Bennett that he tell Gecker to have her take the Fifth,'' Merhige said. Mrs. Willey relayed to the investigators several episodes that raised concerns that someone was trying to intimidate her. She said the day after she gave testimony in the Jones case, she found an animal skull on her porch. She also alleged that: --Her cat disappeared. --A stranger confronted her while walking her dog, asking about her cat and her children. --Her car tires were slashed. The sources said that Mrs. Willey was willing to testify about these incidents at impeachment hearings. search.washingtonpost.com