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To: TigerPaw who wrote (86113)	12/18/1998 10:47:00 PM
From: Mohan Marette	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 176387

<--OT--> Man,I love this woman,where can I get one just like her,you know TP? Friday December 18, 10:14 pm Eastern Time Hillary Clinton to "stand by her man" before vote (Releads with Hillary Clinton going to Capitol Hill) By Randall Mikkelsen WASHINGTON, Dec 18 (Reuters) - First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton may be no ''little woman'' but she seems set to stand by her man on Saturday. Mrs. Clinton is to travel to Capitol Hill to address Democratic members of the U.S. House of Representatives on Saturday morning shortly before the body votes on impeaching President Bill Clinton, her spokeswoman Marsha Berry said. President Clinton is expected to lose that vote, becoming only the second president in U.S. history to be impeached. Berry said Mrs. Clinton was invited by House Democratic leader Richard Gephardt of Missouri to appear before the party's lawmakers ''so they can show their support for her and the president.'' Mrs. Clinton had no intention of trying to sway Republican votes through her appearance, which will be at a private meeting of the Democratic caucus, Berry said. ''It's not going up to influence the vote. It's going up to hear about the support the Democrats have for her and her husband,'' she said. White House officials also said House Democratic leaders had asked to meet Clinton at the White House after the vote, but it was not certain a meeting would take place. Clinton was considering speaking publicly from the White House after the vote, a senior adviser said, but an appearance was not definite. The president declined to comment when asked by a reporter about the impeachment debate which began in the House on Friday. The House is considering four articles of impeachment against Clinton, based on accusations he tried to conceal his affair with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Mrs. Clinton had been noticeably quiet about the crisis confronting the president in recent weeks and some White House aides have been urging her to speak out, given her popularity among Americans. But she has a history of rising to Clinton's defense amid political trouble, most famously during his 1992 campaign when she helped him defuse a scandal over reports of an affair with former cabaret singer Gennifer Flowers. In a January, 1992 joint television interview with Clinton, she rejected a comparison with the ''little woman'' in the Tammy Wynette country song ''Stand By Your Man.'' She said she was with Clinton because she loved him and respected him. Mrs. Clinton -- whose popularity has soared even as the president's political problems have mounted -- was expected to reiterate on Saturday her message of strong support of the president and call for reconciliation made earlier on Friday, Berry said. Speaking outside at the White House on Friday, Mrs. Clinton said, ''The vast majority of Americans share my approval and pride in the job the president has been doing for our country.'' ''We ought to end divisiveness, because we can do so much more together,'' she said. On Thursday evening, Mrs. Clinton warmly introduced the president at a White House Christmas performance as ''my husband, my partner and our president.'' Such warmth comes after months of apparent frostiness in the Clintons' relationship following his public acknowledgment in August of an affair with Lewinsky. In Washington, the odds were stacking up against Clinton in the Republican-dominated House. Analysts were predicting the House would approve one or more articles of impeachment against Clinton. If the House votes to impeach, the charges against Clinton would be sent to the U.S. Senate for a trial. Given the likelihood of that outcome, the White House was preparing a strategy to denigrate the vote as simply an attempt by Republicans to oust a president they do not like. Since most in Washington doubt the Senate would muster a two-thirds majority to remove Clinton from office, White House spokesman Joe Lockhart said the Republicans appeared to be coordinating a strategy to call on Clinton to resign. ''I think what you're seeing, especially in the last few days, is a shift in what has been a very cynical, political strategy by the Republican leadership in the House from impeachment to a building drumbeat to try to force the president to leave office,'' Lockhart said. Clinton has said he would not resign, and Vice President Al Gore said on Friday the president would not even consider it. ''You can forget about that,'' Gore said in a radio interview. Lockhart said if members could set aside partisanship, then they would reach the conclusion reached by the White House that the charges do not rise to the level of impeachment. ''If they can't, then we may have a different result,'' he said.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (86113)	12/18/1998 10:52:00 PM
From: Dorine Essey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

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To: TigerPaw who wrote (86113)	12/18/1998 11:02:00 PM
From: Sonki	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 176387

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To: TigerPaw who wrote (86113)	12/19/1998 12:27:00 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

OT - From The Civil War and Reconstruction by J.G.Randall and David Donald. 1969 reprint of 1961 copywrite. D.C.Heath & Company. Page 616 Because of the importance of the presidential office it is not deemed wise to try a man for a crime while he is President. If an accusation of crime is involved, the President is to be removed (because of the crime) and then, when he is no longer President, tried for the crime in the ordinary courts. Under these circumstances the removal proceeding itself requires a trial. Except in the case of acquittal there are in fact two trials. The situation that would result if a President should be removed by the impeachment process and then acquitted in the courts would be anomalous; but such is the constitutional procedure, and the possibility of this situation but adds to the solemn importance of the Senate's judicial function. If it be felt that the President ought to be subject to political removal by Congress through a method dissociated from the taint of crime, this making his position analogous to that of an English prime minister, the answer would seem to be that this should be accomplished by an amendment to the Constitution, but that the constitutional framework as it stands intentionally makes the President independent of Congress. TP The judgement of the historians is don't impeach if you can't convict. The republican kindergarden teacher has left the room and the kids have gotten out of hand.