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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (20130)	12/20/1998 9:15:00 AM
From: DaveMG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Thanks Tero, So what's to stop everyone else from copying the five line display, dynamic font etc? I assume we're moving in the direction of say three optimum phone models, one smaller, one larger, and perhaps a PDA type phone. Of course they'd all be available in the color of your choice, they'll all head towards similar standby times , in essence a commodity a la PC, market share going to the most cost efficient producer. OF COURSE standby times, ergonomics and sex appeal matter. It would be foolish to pretend they don't, they certainly do virtually everywhere else. What about Siemens and Bosch? Their phones look just as nice as Nokia phones IMO. Dave

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (20130)	12/20/1998 11:21:00 AM
From: limtex	Respond to of 152472

Tero - Goodness how sensitive you are. It is not biggoted to say that "even the Finss can design better phones than the Q" it happens to be true. You should have taken it as a compliment! And you should take the complement because it won't continue and the Q will get its design act together. The US is a bigger maket than Finland and mobile phone penetration will evnetually get to be higher than Finlands and it isn't so now because of the pre-mobile era of availability of wireline phones in the US compared to that of Finland. So far as the "EU" or whatever it is called this week making better aeroplanes than Boeing well quite frankly that is childish logic. Even if it were true these are only products and one is good a particular time and is then superceded by another. Airbus didn't evlove as a commercial company it was an artificial creation designed to allow the French not to feel that their masculinity was threatened because they wouldn't have a major airplane manufacturer. But now the days of great airplane manufacturers is gradually going the same way as shipyards went for twenty years after the war. If you want to believe that the the new technology driving the US's economic growth is coming from somewhere outside the US well I suppose thats your right but you shouldn't then accuse others of attitudes inimical to portfolio management. Still I have given NOK.A a couple of what I thought were very nice complements recently. I happened to mean them 'even' though it is a Finnsh company. Regards, L

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (20130)	12/20/1998 1:04:00 PM
From: JMD	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

tero, let me assure you that I, for one, hope you are absolutely right on your prediction that "Europe is/will be the hot, new high-tech haven". I say this for a variety of reasons, virtually all of them selfish (selfish as in: I see the emergence of European technological excellence as being good for lots of folks including me). 1) USA cannot forever remain "the little engine that could" and keeping pulling the rest of the globe back from the financial brink. If y'all want to join in as another economic powerhouse and share the load, I say: jump on in, welcome, the water's fine. 2) Competition is terrific. Nothing, absolutely nothing, will get a company off its ass faster than a swift kick in the chops by its rival. Airbus just decked Boeing big time. (I say this with more than academic interest owning a shitload of BA). Well you know what? BA was getting arrogant, their manufacturing methods were way overdue for a shake up, the payroll was bloated, and management just couldn't bring itself to make any substantive changes. It pisses me off that I missed all of the above as I think BA is just a terrific company but that's what makes the stock market such a bundle of fun. I have little doubt that BA will come back with a vengance and will have Airbus to thank for it. 3) You are absolutely right to criticize Q for handset inferiority to Nokia. The Q's quality control is not up to snuff and their handsets ain't as sexy by a long shot. Nokia has emerged as the preeminent handset manufacturer on the planet. Congratulations to NOK.A for raising the bar, say I. Consumers are the beneficiaries and the Mighty Q has its work cut out for it. My argument is that the Q spent its time, capital, and talent on the electronic gizzards as its first priority. Now they can afford to swing the heavy guns around to the "form factor" as we tekkies love to say, and a very spirited race will be run. 4) The U.S. just lost the International Cup [actually they were obliterated to be more accurate] to the Australians, Fijians, and a bunch of guys from Maurice's neck of the woods. Hell, a Japanese dude that nobody every heard of racked up a 5-0 record in match play. Well, I was disappointed for the red, white, and blue but jeez, louise what a terrific development for golf! It, along with soccer, has emerged as a truly international sport NOT dominated by one country/continent. Everybody is going to push everybody else to get better. Call me zany but I think that's nothing but good news for Earth. 5) You European dudes have always had a leg up in the style category as far as I can tell. Every time I get lucky and have a chance to visit, I am invariably knocked out by how danged pretty your clothes, and cars, and consumer electronic products, and just about every other thing is. The Yanks still seem very much a work in progress (unless you want to talk about guns at which we seem to be world class but don't get me started) in this style thing so by all means tero my man: keep on stylin'! Best, Surfer Mike