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Strategies & Market Trends : Roger's 1998 Short Picks -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wowzer who wrote (16235)	12/20/1998 4:01:00 PM
From: McNabb Brothers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18691

rory, I'm just so thankful that the house has enough people to vote to up hold the law of this country! Let Clinton and whom ever else screw whom ever they want, but if he or anyone else lies under oath do unto him or her what everyone else gets in this country! Sure there have been many people that have lied under oath, but those that were caught or have been caught are not holding the position they held previous to when they were caught! Get ride of the liar and give us Gore, he may not be the best, but he is next in line! I'm from Arkansas and Bill is a nasty lying nightmare from the early 80's and will always be in my opinion! Hank

To: Wowzer who wrote (16235)	12/20/1998 9:31:00 PM
From: Mama Bear	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18691

" I would of respected and supported the Houses decision to impeach the President if the vote was partisan, but what I saw this week in the house of representatives was an utter joke with politics at its very very worst and no way represented the will of the people. " Tell me Rory, when the very same partisanship ends this thing with Slick's acquittal, will I hear you complaining about that partisanship? It's a partisan political system. Concerning this partisanship, I saw a lot more Republicrats crossing over than Demopublicans. Perhaps we should just turn the governance of the country over to the pollsters. Oh, I hear that the majority in those same polls now favor Slick's resignation...you do of course think he should do the 'will of the people', right? Should an acting President of the United States be impeached for apparently lying under oath in a personal civil lawsuit on questions regarding his personal sex life. That is it period. " BTW Rory, that is what is being decided. This is the process for making that decision. A lot of folks believe that perjury is a pretty serious felony. Barb

To: Wowzer who wrote (16235)	12/21/1998 12:50:00 AM
From: BelowTheCrowd	Respond to of 18691

The whole "no constitutional basis for censure" is pretty poor. The two houses of congress pass both "praise" and "censure" motions all the time. Thanking charity X, condemning the actions of foreign leader Y. Showing "unanimous support" for some policy or another, expressing "disgust and revulsion" at other things. Read the Congressional Record. Happens dozens of times a month. To put it simply. Nothing in the world stops a member of the house from proposing a resolution stating "We think Billy-Boy is a jerk." Nothing stops it from coming to a vote. Nothing stops it from passing. And (of course) it doesn't really mean much if it does. And even now that he's impeached, nothing stops the Senate from trying him, convicting him, and deciding to punish him by prohibiting the consumption of french fries in the White House. The only limitation is that they can't do anything BEYOND removing him from office and barring him from further service. Even a financial penalty may not be legal (one could argue that requiring him to pay any money of his own is, in fact, a punishment above and beyond just firing him). Bottom line. We've never done this before in this kind of environment. The requirements are vague. And just about anything the congress does other than acquit or remove from office will end up in the Supreme court. And they don't have the votes to remove him from office. mg