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To: Jimsy who wrote (24657)	12/20/1998 7:31:00 PM
From: IngotWeTrust	Respond to of 116972

If U R correct (just hi-school sex) then WHY do we have a C/n/Chief?, in his 50's,? w/demonstrated inclination 2 bomb t'hell outta whomever he choses,?...ACTING LIKE HE'S 15, STILL???? Did you imprint on a broad bangin' bumpkus as your highschool student council pres in your youth? Are we globally doomed to be lead by undisciplined men (and women) who can't keep their word, in supposedly their most important relationships, such as marriage? "as a man thinketh in his heart, so acts he" comes leaping to mind. This isn't about sex, pal... this is about lying: U pick a subject, any subject!!! Then we will provide you, free of charge the direct quoted lie AND find you a dozen liars. Hey, we'll even tailor-fit your selection to any of the following criteria: Select your prefered liar from any of the following categories: independent, republican, democrat, communist, libertarian, protestant, catholic, jew, agnostic, atheist, moslem, muslim, native american, black, white, asian, literate, illiterate, veteran, civilian, person of the cloth, laity, educated, quit school in the 4th grade, athelete, couch potato, technical analyst, fundamentalist, bottoms up, tops down, teacher, student, janitor, Fortune 500 CEO, we got'em all... (nice thing re "melting pot USA": you get lotsa choices down here) Still don't get it, "neighbor"???????? Why was it so difficult to say, "yep, I did?" It took HIS SEMEN on her dress to "force ANY truth" outta him! *ANY TRUTH.* Then all the banged broads in his broom closet started falling out... What is the "Acceptable Lies Allowance" up there in Canada anyway? More than 1 but less than 35? Sheeeeesh!

To: Jimsy who wrote (24657)	12/20/1998 7:31:00 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116972

A numbers game where bets are off Analysis, By Joanne Gray Conventional wisdom holds that there will never be a two-thirds majority in the US Senate willing to force President Clinton from office. But conventional wisdom has been wrong on so many occasions in Washington in the past year that it almost seems safe to bet against it. Whether he proves to be a victim of a runaway Congress, or a flawed president who squandered his potential through self-destructive behaviour and serial failure to tell the truth, Clinton has only a few more chances to save his presidency from total ignominy. To avoid the trial of the century he must do two things: preserve the surprisingly high level of support he enjoys with the American people and convince the Senate that a harshly worded censure will close this bitter period in US political history. In two elections the American public was aware of the allegations that Clinton was a sexual predator and chose to ignore them. To a large extent the record-breaking economic boom the US has enjoyed under his presidency has bolstered his standing, and given plenty of material reasons why the public could ignore the more troubling aspects of his character. Without the scandals, Clinton would also be remembered for his success in bringing the Democratic party to the American middle ground. The people could start to believe that resignation would be the best thing for the country if a drawn-out impeachment trial starts to harm confidence in the stockmarket or if the economy falters. If public opinion were to turnagainst Clinton, it is likely that his own party, the Democratic Party, would also start to get cold feet and push for him to go. If he has any energy left to fight, Clinton must now work out how to get out of this mess using smart political judgement rather than legal tactics. The situation is especially tricky because the only deal that seems to be acceptable to Republicans would be an admission of lying to the grand jury. In return, the Senate trial and the threat of conviction could be dropped. But such an admission could place Clinton in legal jeopardy and the political climate is so toxic in Washington that it is hard to see exactly whom he could strike a deal with. At the same time, the Democrats have painted the impeachment process as unfair and partisan and, because of that, illegitimate. But that stance does not sit well with the difficult task of trying to find common ground with Republicans in the Senate. In retrospect, Bill Clinton has made a series of major blunders, all of them betraying a lack of the political judgement he was so well known for in the past, and an inability to admit to mistakes or his own lapses of judgement. He should have tried to settle the Paula Jones sexual harassment case this time last year when he knew that her lawyers were aware of Monica Lewinsky. Last January, he should have admitted he had an affair with Lewinsky and asked for the nation's forgiveness instead of wagging his finger in a nationally televised response to a question and emphatically appearing to deny it. Every time the President has spoken about this matter, he has offended or enraged Republicans. Remorse and the truth were his political weapons, but he chose instead legal weapons of obfuscation, hair-splitting and evasion. And finally, when he answered 81 answers sent to him by the Judiciary Committee, they were seen as once again legalistic and evasive. Many of the 20 or so moderate Republicans who decided to vote for impeachment said they did so because the President failed to show contrition or take responsibility for his actions, and many seemed insulted by the somewhat cavalier way he was treating the process. Just a month ago, few people thought the impeachment process was going anywhere. The White House and the Democratic Party generally misinterpreted the November mid-term elections in which the Republican Party lost five seats when it was expected to win twice that many. That led to the surprise resignation of Newt Gingrich, who has been demonised by the White House, and was seen as the force driving the impeachment bandwagon. But an even more zealous Republican, Tom DeLay, then took up the impeachment drive, telling wavering Republicans that impeachment was the only constitutional option available to the House to punish the President. A bipartisan censure motion just wouldn't do it. Now political commentators are saying that Gingrich may have been more amenable to a compromise. In a carefully staged show of support yesterday, a flock of Democrats climbed into buses after the House of Representatives vote and drove to the White House. afr.com.au

To: Jimsy who wrote (24657)	12/21/1998 1:52:00 PM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116972

I think the two tier price system that seems to be in place presently where the majors such as Placer Dome get 400 dollars an ounce and the quoted price, set by the sale of less than 2500 ounces per day of metal at 290 dollars, is a sham set by the US gov't, who up to now has been a secret buyer of gold for the past two years. The miniscule amounts of gold sold on the LME and the COMEX are a straw market that is set up that way to prop up the US dollar and make it the premier currency in the world. It is a cabal, pure and simple. If anyone thinks that the metal exchanges are honest metal dealers then they are living in a dreamworld. EC<:-}