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To: Andrew Martin who wrote (740)	12/23/1998 2:04:00 PM
From: RavenCrazy	Respond to of 2390

You say, among a pile of disinformation, that: >>More like they [ed. Sandinistas] used the army as nothing more than the muscle behind their confiscations of private property -both foreign and domestic, in their murderous looting spree of '79-84. It was done for "the good of the Revolution" as well of course.<< MURDEROUS LOOTING SPREE????? Where in the HELL do you get your information. Look up the FIRST law passed in July of 1979 when the people cheered the victorious Sandinistas into Managua after Somoza got out of the country with the national treasury. The first law was the ENDING of capital punishment. The members of Somoza's national guard who had terrorized and murdered helpless Nicaraguans were exempt from capital punishment. Murder? You have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. As for looting. Sorry again, but you are way off track. Under the Sandinistas, the land that had belonged to Somoza's family and his National Guard (who fled the country to later form the base of the Contras) was confiscated and distributed to peasants who had worked the land for others for generations. The people from whom the land was taken were GONE and they HAD been murderers, as they continued to be during the Contra insurgency. They had been the Nicaraguans who, following Somoza's orders, bombed Managua and its innocent civilians and children while Somoza tried to hang on to power. Go down there, Andrew. Ask the people how they felt about the Contras. Sure, you'll find criticism of Daniel, but it's all for economic reasons. I've never considered him a rocket scientist in economics. Murder? I first met Miguel d'Escoto (as foreign minister, the equivalent of our Secretary of State) in a shoe store. He was alone, no bodyguard. No need for them. I ran into Daniel Ortega a few times and was always able to go up and chat. He did have two young men who traveled with him, and it might be fair to call them bodyguards, but I don't think they could have afforded any protection had he had enemies on the streets. He didn't. He drove his own jeep, no bullet-proof glass, no escorts. He was as accessible as a private citizen. For all the months I spent down there, I never stopped being aware of how utterly impossible such accessibility would ever be with our own leaders. You may think however you wish politically, but when you tell people there was "murderous looting" in Nicaragua by the Sandinistas between 1979 and 1984, you are a despicable liar. Raven

To: Andrew Martin who wrote (740)	12/23/1998 5:35:00 PM
From: Rose Rose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2390

Andy, you have been MISINFORMED. As embarrassing as it is to realize that you've been taken in like a fool, it is not nearly as embarrassing as continuing to spout out lies, thus proving to all who hear (or read) you that you will never be anything other than a fool. How many times have you visited Nicaragua? What can you offer to back up your ludicrous claims? Let me guess -- never, and nothing. Good God, you brainless imbecile, you can't even spell Somoza right! And you claim to be an "expert"?? Rose