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To: the gator who wrote (746)	12/23/1998 2:34:00 PM
From: J.B.C.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2390

Dear Mr. Al LIEgator, You and your henchmen write statements with out much thought and profess it to be true, even though its not if it meets you means. Your statement: >>No my friend I have NEVER in 8 years found a liberally raised child to be treated this way.<< The statement is basically a bald face lie, and statistically impossible. I can prove it, but have little time to go through the proof. A synopsis: If you had 10 cases a year (which I'm you sure is way low) that would be 80 cases. If you had statistically the best cross section of people that supports your premise, that would be WASP as other groups such as blacks, single parent families, crack babies, etc. would skew the data my way as most in this group would fall more into the liberal arena, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The relative cross section of WASPs is 50-50 liberal vs. conservative. The probability of you getting 80 abuse cases all from conservative is roughly the equivalent of you pulling a coin out of your pocket and flipping either 80 consecutive heads or 80 consecutive tails. >>Yeh Jim must be nice to live in your own little world. << Have too, have to deal with liars like you otherwise. Lie # 2 >>If you poor brain dead right wingers can't get your "truth" news to verify your position out of some white supremacist publication or flush bimbo then you simply label it bs. << Sorry, but I haven't quoted any other news source here but Rueters, which by the way is liberal. Lie # 3 >>You have all the answers for everything and seem to know what everyone's life's experiences entail even though you have no expertise in the area.<< I only respond to those thing which I do know, and those things that are LIES and unsubtantiated. I have a brain a can see when someone's trying to BS me. That's why engineers make it to so few Jury cases. You have a brain too, try using it sometime before you present your so call facts. Merry Christmas, outta here for two weeks. To all my liberal friends here keep trying, no one has yet refuted solid logic and truth. To all my conservative friends...if it's bs they try to feed you, call them on it, they lose. Jim

To: the gator who wrote (746)	12/23/1998 5:04:00 PM
From: Frank Griffin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2390

I really have to question your position. I know scores of young people who attend our church. I swell with pride and thanks when I see the quality of these young people. In great majority, they are the children of conservative parents. They are involved in activities to help those who cannot help themselves. They lead a quality and principled life. I then read the newspapers about children committing crimes. They are generally from your constituency. Single family parents who are away a great deal of the time or grandmother is caring for the child while mom is on drugs, etc.. I would believe that probably 100% of these parents are strong backers of Clinton and big government benevolence. Most of these kids do not really have a chance. Their fathers are gone and don't care. Mom is probably either on welfare, drugs or working at a low paying job. So much for the great society. Why not have workfare and assist people to become productive and gain a new self esteem? I am guessing you work for the government and feel a certain job security in having this available constituency. It is a sad and difficult situation. We root for everyone to get ahead and to have opportunity. However, they must first have the desire and direction. Otherwise, they will continue to vote democratic and will continue a life on the dole. Frank