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To: Michael Burry who wrote (5554)12/24/1998 3:48:00 PM
From: Madharry  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78715
 
Thanks guys .Re: UBB:
Caveats: I have no current financials on UBB so I do not know if they have suffered trading losses or huge loan losses recently. I am making no predictions on the economic well-being of Brazil. I do not follow any other foreign banks as UBB is so cheap if I decide I want more of a bank I will buy more UBB.

UBB sells at about .5 of my estimate of its current book value. and .3-.4 of revenues. Most US banks sell at 2-4 times book and 1-3 times revenues. I expect long term growth at UBB to be much better than at most US banks. Outside of its profits which I believe are about $4 a share it has raised $1.6 billion in the past three years- $1.1 billion from stock sales and $500MM from the sale of a 50% interest in an insurance subsidiary to AIG ( not a bad partner). This may be more than the current market cap of the company. It also has around 2 million retail accounts and a growing web-site which I believe will be a huge revenue producer and cost containment instrument for all banks if used properly. This is the story in a nutshell. Brazil will continue to have problems but I do not see a collapse in the cards and I see UBB as being a great long term investment (over twenty years) and I would use drops to buy more if I have the funds and it is a reasonable part of my portfolio. First I need to buy some USU <g>!



To: Michael Burry who wrote (5554)12/25/1998 3:35:00 PM
From: Madharry  Respond to of 78715
 
Mike I know you once had a position in YPF. It was just recommended by one of the guys from Templeton Intl on CNBC as his top pick for 1999. Do you still own and would you like to tell the story of YPF?