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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (35688)	12/26/1998 11:27:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 94695

OT.. Haim, Just because folks like the Haganah were able to persuade the Brits to abandon Trans-Jordan and partition what is currently Israel into a Jewish and Palestinian partition (whereupon the Israelis announced statehood in 1948, while the Palestinian partition was conquered by the Jordanians and Egytians), doesn't mean that there aren't long-held ties to the land on the part of both Jews and Palestinians. The Palestinians obviously feel much closer to the land that was passed down to them by their direct ancestors and engenders some resentment against non-sabra Jews lacking a direct family tie to the land (minus the historical/biblical ties dating from 2000 years ago.) Most of the Hebrews are "outcasts" from Morocco, Syria, Egypt, Europe, and every other far-reaching corner of the Diaspora. So one man's outcast is another man's immigrant. And all of them are competing for a scarce resource, land and water. The problem is that for the Iraelis to reclaim what they feel is their biblical birthright, they have to execute a form of middle eastern version of "manifest destiny" against a much more astute and equipped opponent. The US was no different in overcoming the Native American tribes on this continent. We took the land because we could. The Israelis are taking the land because they think they can, except that the Palestinians are fighting back (making a useful tool for those other Islamic countries who resent the presence of a non-Arab/Islamic state in their midst). As for your definition of Arab and Palestinian, I think you should define your terms. I have known several Palestinian Christians in my life who feel just as strongly about Palestinian statehood as their Islamic brethren. In fact one of them has family ties that go back hundreds of years in what is now Israel. He used to tell stories that his parents related about how before Israeli statehood both Jews and Palestinians were quite content to co-exist. But then European Zionist movement began importing thousands of Ashkanazis(spelling?) and displaced those Palestinians who occupied "prime land". Why? Because they could. As for your justification of killing 34 defenseless US sailors on the USS Liberty, I guess you also justify the spying of Jonathan Pollard on the US as well. I especially feel upset that some of the intelligence he provided was sold to the Soviets by Israeli Intelligence, thus directly placing US assets at risk. So far as I'm concerned he's lucky he wasn't executed. I also feel slightly miffed that, according to you, any ship sailing within international waters can be considered fair play by the Isralis, should they deem it a risk. Especially those same Israelis enjoying the fruits of US intelligence assets as we assist them in their counter-terrorist efforts connected with the Wye Accord. (that is why the CIA is foolishing finding themselves thrust in between the two adverssaries as peacemaker). Had I been LBJ, I would have lobbed a couple of sorties against Haifa harbor as a response to that deliberate act of war on the high seas by the Israelis. And the only danger that the Liberty put you in was the fact that the US was close to discovering that Israel was launching a strike on Syria, while the US interest was to bring the war to a close before it spread. Right or wrong, the Israelis attacked unprovoked and without warning. I'm somewhat disgusted how Israelis can find the US such a convenient "ally" on one hand and a target on the other. I guess it is true that nations have no "friends", only "interests". IMO, the only way the issue will resolve itself is for all parties to fight it out to exhaustion or mutual destruction. I'm rather sick of finding my country being manipulated by ungrateful parties on both sides. We can stop this exchange now. I just needed to get that out. Regards, Ron (Tired of being the world's policeman... :0)