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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (27302)	12/27/1998 7:10:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Emile, Anybody who is even vaguely conversant with Middle Eastern history already knows that Israelis deliberately and systematically massacred Palestinians in 1948, that this was done to drive other Palestinians out, and that a wide spectrum of Israelis was involved. What is the point? Are we supposed to massacre Israelis in belated revenge? Or do we work out a framework for a coexistent Palestinian state, as many people are trying to do right now? Israeli behaviour has been quite appalling, but what makes it, in your mind, so much worse than all the other massacres, ethnic cleansings, napalm bombings, nuclear bombings, terrorist bombings, and other assorted atrocities of the 20th century? Why do you fear the Jews so much? I don't guess that it's purely due to their treatment of the Palestinians. If we trace the abuse of the Palestinians back along a causative chain, what do we find? Abused children are likely, as adults, to abuse their own children. Behavior is learned. Centuries of persecution and abuse by Christian Europeans convinced the Jews that the only way they would ever be safe would be to take - by any means necessary - a piece of land that would be exclusively theirs. It is disappointing, but hardly surprising, that they adopted the same methods that were used against them. The persecution of the Palestinians is a direct consequence of the Christian Europeans' treatment of the Jews. If Europe had been a little friendlier, it's not likely that the Jews would have had any desire to go to Palestine. Personally, I think we could have avoided the whole mess at the end of WWII by simply letting them have New York City as a homeland, but it's a bit late for that. Might still work, though. Perhaps they could make the Bronx bloom, which would be an achievement. My own ancestors fled Europe to escape religious persecution, and drove out the original inhabitants of the land they fled to (a rather larger parcel than the Jews took). Their brutality made the Israelis of Deir Yassein look like Sunday School kids. Can you honestly expect a bunch of (gasp) Jews to behave better than our own founding fathers? It might also be pointed out that the persecution faced by my ancestors was somewhat less thorough and violent than what the Jews were up against. Please recall that I am trying to understand Israeli behaviour, not to justify or condone it. I am also trying to understand your particularly intense focus on the Jews as the authors of all evil, but with very little success. Steve