SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Gold/Mining/Energy : Silver prices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: long-gone who wrote (1506)12/29/1998 8:05:00 PM
From: ForYourEyesOnly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8010
 
Delivery of Silver:

I am based in Japan, so I don't have too much info, but:

*5,000 oz is the main contract size, but I believe that 1,000 oz contracts are available.
*If you buy the nearest contract the prices should be very close to spot, none of the idiotic margins you have to pay when buying coins at dealers.
*Commissions are minimal.....depends on who you deal with.....since you are taking delivery you will near a person, not an "e-trade" type company.....maybe $35/contract (5,000 oz) or so?
*If you keep it in the wharehouse and just have the silver registered in your name, then I don't see any reason to have it assayed when you sell it.
*I would call around and find a broker who will help you take delivery of a contract, most want you to buy & sell to generate commissions.

Bernie Bohl is friendly:
bohl@minot.com

Glenn Toth <glenn@commodity.com> is another person that seems helpful....however, you should ask people that do business in the states.

Good luck,

THC



To: long-gone who wrote (1506)1/3/1999 3:45:00 AM
From: ForYourEyesOnly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8010
 
Mad Dreams of a Silver Million

Happy New Year to All!

Looking forward to a sparkling end to the millenium!

Now, just for fun, I would like to consider what would happen were we to get a multi-year, "millionaire making" bull run in silver & the other PMs. I know that it's 99.9% fantasy, but allow me to indulge.....it's that last 0.1% that makes things fun....

Silver options appear to offer by far the most leverage, so I used them for the following calculations of madness ( 5,000 ounces per contract ) :

Level 1: Jan. 1999
*POS= $5
*Buy 1 Dec 99 $6.25 call for $850 ( 17c )
*Cost of 1yr $1.25 OTM call is 17c/oz

Level 2: Sometime before Nov 99, POS rockets
*POS = $8.25
*Sell call for $2 x 5000 = $10,000
*Will assume due to volatility that cost of 1yr $1.25 OTM call has doubled to 34c ( this is an idiot guess, pls provide more realistic estimate! )
*Buy 5 $9.50 Dec 00 calls @34c, .34 x 5000 x 5 = $8,500

Level 3: Sometime before Nov 00, POS rockets again
*POS = $11.50
*Sell call for $2 x 5000 x 5 = $50,000
*Buy 25 $11.75 Dec 01 calls @34c, .34 x 5000 x 25 = $42,500

Level 4: Sometime before Nov 01, POS rockets again
*POS = $11.50
*Sell call for $2 x 5000 x 5 = $50,000
*Buy 25 $11.75 Dec 01 calls @34c, .34 x 5000 x 25 = $42,500

Level 5: Sometime before Nov 02, POS rockets again
*POS = $13.75
*Sell call for $2 x 5000 x 25 = $250,000
*Buy 100 $15.00 Dec 03 calls @34c, .34 x 5000 x 25 = $170,000

Level 6: Sometime before Nov 03, POS rockets again
*POS = $17.00
*Sell 100 calls for $2 x 5000 x 100 = $1,000,000

Once again, I am new to options and there may be many problems ( besides the risk, which should be obvious to all ) in the above options "gambling/pyramiding" strategy. I am hoping that others with more experience could point out how the actual prices of silver options would change should the POS move significantly.

Looking forward to comments.....

Good luck to all,

THC