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To: Dayuhan who wrote (15943)	12/29/1998 10:58:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

>>>>>Why don't people paint that way any more? Is it because they don't want to, or because they can't?<<<<< EXCELLENT question. Truly excellent. I won't hazard a guess, because I don't paint. My grandmother was an artist, not very good, my mother studied art in college, got an MFA, but never became an actual artist, I worked in printing and advertising for years, so I have been around artist-types all my life, and I can tell you that not one of them could ever in a million years come close to Caravaggio. But then, no one can write music like J.S. Bach, nor sculpt like Michelangelo, nor write like Homer. Maybe it's because artist are part of a tradition, and when the tradition is lost, it is no longer accessable?

To: Dayuhan who wrote (15943)	12/30/1998 8:17:00 AM
From: Don Pueblo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

You bet Rembrandt knew of Caravaggio! Overactive imagination? Not at all. When you start asserting that Leonardo was gay and the Mona Lisa is a self portrait in drag and that's the proof, then we will accuse you of over imagination. (No, I did not make it up.) Now, about your comment on reality/surreality. I got your concept, but I wouldn't word it that way. Surrealism was "invented" (correct me if I am wrong, Cobalt, cause I don't guarantee I'm right) by a dude named Andre Breton in France in the 20th century. His "idea" was to "explore" the part of the mind that is "out of control". Without getting into a discussion of the ins and outs of this, I believe that Andre was a friggin' mental case, and no Good ever came (or ever will) from the pursuit of what he called "surrealism". But what I am guessing you meant was a pursuit of the "actuality" of the real world; the observation of that which is around us, distilled into a statement that shows our understanding (not our LACK of understanding) of what we have observed. Great artists do that. Really great artists do it without the viewer even catching on that he or she is learning something. Tell me a joke, this serious stuff is gettin' weird. I need some ether. P.S. Just checked, and I got his name right, at least... socialequality.org.uk