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To: LKO who wrote (20551)12/30/1998 1:44:00 AM
From: George Gilder  Respond to of 152472
 
No the pdQ will have IP connectivity as soon as Sprint can accommodate it. The stack has been there since 1991 and used only for some signalling functions.



To: LKO who wrote (20551)12/30/1998 1:45:00 AM
From: jpbrody  Respond to of 152472
 
LKO, pdQ has a native IP stack.

QUALCOMM's pdQ smartphone is compatible with all applications designed for the Palm Computing® platform. Its native TCP/IP stack will permit the phone to function like a Palm IIIā„¢ with a built-in wireless modem. --http://www.qualcomm.com/pdQ/developer.html

Qualcomm has already released a preview version of pdQmail and pdQbrowser (their e-mail and web apps) see qualcomm.com

--
Jim



To: LKO who wrote (20551)12/30/1998 4:05:00 AM
From: engineer  Respond to of 152472
 
The pdQ does indeed carry a full PPP and TCP/IP stack. If you know the Palm OS, it has a TCP/IP stack which it uses for it's modem. the CDMA over the air packets are 192 bits long, but that does not mean that this is a TCP/IP frame length. Since the CDMA packet itself is error corrected and the BER is held to less than 1%, it does not need the TCP/IP header in each one, but rather the packets in the TCP/IP stack is the normal packet length.

In the Q phone, when using the packet data implementation as Qualcomm did in 1996, it uses a PPP stack in the phone (this is the REAL thing that Phil advocated us using in every phone, BTW...). The phone then can terminate it to an internal upper layer of TCP/IP, but in most implementations such as directly hooking it up to a PC, the PC uses PPP as the transport layer between the phone and the PC, and the PC is responsible for the TCP/IP stack.

Looks like this (in the case of the pdQ, the PC here is the Palm microprocessor system)

PC TCP/IP
PC PPP (to phone)

Phone PPP (to PC)
Phone PPP (To RLP layer)
Phone RLP (Radio Link Protocol, or CDMA packets)
Phone RLP (to basestation)

Basestation RLP (from Phone)
basestation PPP
Basestation PPP (to basestation controller)

bTS controller PPP
BTS controller TCP/IP

The applications in the pdQ use the full Code Warrior development system along with a Qualcomm supplied TCP/IP stack. If the code is where I last saw it, you could buy a Palm III and start developing apps for it today.

the pdQ runs full internet web browser on it. It can do things like netsynch, since this is just a standard palm application. the Palm phone book IS your phone number list. It does have full IP connectivity. Same is true for the older Nokia 9000 boxes, although it has never gotten over 9.6 k bps.

the Palm phone is NOT the pdQ. It is something else entirely.



To: LKO who wrote (20551)12/30/1998 8:16:00 AM
From: Peter Ecclesine  Respond to of 152472
 
Hi LKO,

>I am sure there will be some integration of things such as phone
> lists, appointments etc to phone features, but I have not seen claims
> of IP connectivity in pdQ or any other cell phone.

The Nextel phones use IP packets for voice and data. Turning the phone on and registering with a base station initiates two 'circuits' - voice and data.

petere